Someone who does not appreciate those who steal from exploitative global corporations, is not someone worth knowing.
The entire reason the McDonald’s app exists is so McDonald’s can have variable prices to rip you off based on what they learn about your habits.
I hardly classify using their services in unintended ways as “stealing”.
If tech went down for six months, they’d offer you a discount for hopping on one leg while rubbing your stomach and patting your head.
Besides data collection, the main purpose is to get more money out of people willing to pay more without missing out on people who won’t pay that much.
It’s tiered pricing where they’re fine with you selecting a tier, as long as they steer enough to the higher one l.
This is what you text to win her back.
Maybe not something you show off on the first date. Got to lay down the Marxist theory first.
Let your che Guevara date night t shirt do the taking
They’re chicken nuggets, he’s not Robin Hood.
I can appreciate those who steal from corporations but I sure as hell don’t want to implicate myself by being with them when they do it lol
A guy I hung out with in college told me about all the ATMs he stole and asked if I wanted to go with him next time… I said maybe another time and then never spoke to him again. I didn’t want to be associated with him when he eventually got busted…which he did…
I don’t know the details of these nuggets, but I’m guessing they used multiple sessions to use a coupon code multiple times or something of the sort. More just exploiting a poorly set up system than theft.
Stealing ATMs is significantly different and definitely more illegal in my mind.
It’s the exact same thing at scale.
One is going against a company’s ToS, the other is theft… Not sure how they’re the same.
If he cheats with you he’ll cheat on you. Even if it’s cheating on food.
What a wild take
Nobody got anything to say about her reply?! She could have just ghosted him but instead gave an honest reply.
Many people who get mad at getting ghosted also often get mad at the “bullshit” reasons they get, so you’re not going to hear a lot of praise.
We normalize normality.
A while back Taco Bell and T-Mobile was doing some promo where you could get a free taco each week (or something like that, it’s been years) for “T-Mobile Tuesday”. The code wasn’t unique, but it’s use was tracked on the TB account. TB at this time also didn’t have a captcha for new accounts.
I also had a Google Workspace domain that had its email rigged to accept and deliver any email sent to its domain regardless of what was before the @.
A bit of C# later and I had a Taco Generator going, on command it would generate however many orders at whatever TB I choose. I’d just roll up and say I had 12 orders for cm0002 LMAO
No one ever said anything until the one time i pushed my luck and had it generate 24 tacos, then the manager was like “Better not be this high again, I’m cool with the 12”
That’s a cool manager.
I’m cool with the 12”
hehe. That’s what he said.
Honestly, fuck you.
I managed a pizza place for six years and I cut the scam orders down to 10% of what they were when I took over. We were insanely busy in the fattest city in the USA.
Aside- I don’t mind giving food away, I always made sure there was food for the staff, even made my own recipes for everyone that’s so much better than what you can order at [corpo store]. During the busy season we had 40 employees and I made sure they were all fed and made sure they had food to take home to their families if they were in a bad spot. I was actually making less than minimum wage because I was exempt salary at the federal minimum and I worked 50-70 hours a week. We also fed homeless people as long as they took what we had and didn’t demand we cook something for them.
Back on topic- Scammers are not starving people, they’re just assholes. We had one guy who was getting one free pizza each week delivered to his fucking boat. I mean this guy was getting a free pizza with no tip delivered during the busiest part of the busiest day of the week for years! When I told him to never call again he called me every name he could, and threatened to call the police. I had so many people threaten to come over and fight me when I refused their scams. I would drop everything even in the middle of the shittiest rush to shut down a scam. Scams hurt everyone and especially hurt the drivers who got $2.15 an hour. Scammers never tip.
For any food managers who read this, I developed a technique I call the broken record. In a cheery voice, I would say “I’m sorry sir/ma’am but without a verified order I’m unable to issue a replacement.” They would but but but but and I would say “I’m sorry sir/ma’am but without a verified order I’m unable to issue a replacement.”
Sometimes they would hang up after two. Sometimes I would say it eight times in a row. But that’s all I would say once I was sure they were lying. It worked fucking fantastic and the more they cussed me out the better my day would get. They would say the most ridiculous shit like the pizza put my daughter in the hospital. And you want another?
Years of this combined with knowing pathological liars since I was a child means I can spot a liar right away. I am very fucking good at knowing when someone is lying. I don’t mind when people exaggerate a story a bit for fun, I do it myself, but liars can go fuck off all the way. They do not care about you, only what they can get from you.
Thanks for coming to my Fred talk.
Tbh, my biggest takeaway from that is tipping and sub-minimum wage need to go die in a fire. That corp used you and your employees as a meat shield to soak up the financial consequences for flaws in their shitty system.
You and your team are victims of wage theft.
Yeah at the end of the day this is another example of corporate greed and them taking advantage of the people on the front line who are measured in dollars and cents where the CEO is measured in percentage of quarterly revenue.
That being said the people who don’t need a cheap pizza but rather just want to game the system or to prove a point of what they can get are the same as the people that refuse to tip because the tipping system is bad. They are costing the corporation pennies while making someone’s day really shitty.
Class warfare isn’t only against those of a different class, it can and is manufactured to make you angry at those next to you so we bicker amongst ourselves as the the actual guy on his boat would never order this pizza to begin with and has his own private culinary staff.
It wasn’t like a yacht. It was this guy’s boat that he either lived in or was in every Friday for so many years. You could look him up in our system and it was just free pizza after free pizza. 52 a year for years.
People like that are not our allies in class war.
Oh I absolutely agree. The only things I’m proud of from my time in that fire are the people skills I gained and the people I was able to help. Shit was so bad in this place. One day one of the drivers came in crying. She didn’t have a shift that day I asked her what was wrong and she’d found a body in the alley behind her place. Her husband had killed the guy. She had nowhere else to turn. We sat in the little desk area we called an office and I hugged her and told her we would figure it out and she would be ok. We waited for the police while service went to shit because I wasn’t out there.
You are being exploited by whoever owned the pizza place. We are all working class.
That’s your takeaway? That we’re all be exploited so the person who has to deal with the scams should just be OK with it because we’re all on some hypothetical side?
I mean unless that person is explicitly getting paid to deal with scams, why give a shit? If I found out someone was gaming the system where I worked at I’d ask how they did it, because fuck the corporation.
unless that person is explicitly getting paid to deal with scams
In this context it was their job to deal with the scammer.
Man this is such a sad comment. Imagine people gaming the system are the problem and not the company you work for that is paying a driver 2.15 an hour.
Always scam companies out of pizzas and give employees a larger tip with the money you saved. That’s the lesson here
I wouldn’t mind if they did that at all. In total I was at that shithole for 8 precious years of my life. The poverty was grinding. I would make free pizzas happily all day if it was getting the drivers paid.
But in that eight years I cannot recall a single free pizza that got a tip.
a) This was TB a giant multi-billion dollar conglomerate, not the local pizza joint nor did I ever place it for delivery, no tip was expected.
b) The manager knew what I was doing and was mad about the quantity rather than what I was doing and gave me a stern “Just keep it reasonable” warning. Which I adhered to, had he told me to stop entirely I would have.
Unfathomably based. You’re a good person.
That’s kind of like going up to a display that says “free sample - one per customer” and taking several samples. And doing so on a first date, like: this is who I am. It’s not really bad or anything, it’s just… kind of weird and embarassing.
It is overtly bad. It’s making someone’s shitty job worse because you think you’re better and so smart for beating the system. Garbage people.
Is there anything that really makes their job shittier about this though? Than than dealing with three orders instead of one?
If anything with the focus these days on metrics around how fast they can serve customers these three simple orders probably made their metrics look better so they could slack off on the next few orders.
But yeah just says “I’m a cheapskate.”
When I worked in a restaurant I wouldn’t have cared because I got paid hourly, like a McDonald’s employee. The customer is still making a habit out of McDonald’s so maybe this is what corporate wants.
I’d say, potentially yes.
I say that, because 1, is been over 2 decades since I worked a McDonald’s, so things could have changed. And 2, it depends on the time of day. And secret third option, depends on the customer.
So generally speaking a certain amount of food will be cooked before hand and kept in a warmer for only so many minutes (ideally). So it is possible that there wasn’t enough chicken nuggets ready to go and they just had to be counted out. If that’s the case the person just needed to make more chicken nuggets.
However, even back when I worked there you had a plethora of customers who would demand fresh stuff and I know it’s only gotten more popular to do (don’t do that). So if this individual demanded that they be freshly made and it was done during the rush… Then yes absolutely this could have made somebody’s day worse.
Fresh McDonalds!? 😂
But seriously… who demands McDonalds to be fresh? It’s literally fast food.
Fresh in they want it cooked “fresh”. People do it all the time because they are under the idea that the food just sits until sold, and it’s some life hack to demand it be made fresh. People do it with fries all the time, or they’ll demand “no salt” (forcing someone to make it fresh) and then once getting the food, ask for a shit ton of salt packets (the salt will not stick to the fries at this point). For sure, not all McD’s hold themselves to the corporate standards, but I’d say a fair number do.
Its especially silly to ask for it to be “made fresh” during rush, since they’re likely cycling through everything in minutes.
I’d have a hard time not laughing at customers if I worked in fast food I feel. But I am also good at bullshitting so who knows?
It also says “I’m a cheater.” Red flag.
Depends on the context. If they start out with a speech about revenge, use it as a demonstration of their work, or make it a goofy play on 90s hacking, it could be fun for the right person at the right time.
But if they went into it saying “I’m such a little tendieslut. God, I can’t wait to steal some chicken. My neighbor blew me behind there *point* when it was still a Wendy’s, and that was confusing because she was just supposed to drive me to my mom’s place so I could get ready for junior league” then their audience shrinks considerably further.
Ever worked food or retail? I mean yeah the guy’s a dipshit, but you aren’t considering factors that make several workers’ day worse.
Like what
You need to make 40 trays of samples an hour. Here goes some dipshit thinking he’s hurting the system by popping a bunch in his fat ass mouth. Now you gotta make more trays. Holy shit this post is really showing me that Lemmy might be a bunch of teenagers in a trench coat.
They’re asking about the McDonald’s example. Obviously taking a bunch of free samples means they have to make more samples. If you’re working at McDonald’s, you’re either making food for 8 hours or selling stuff for 8 hours, you’re never going to finish serving or making food.
Why am I not getting through to you people who have no experience in food service? Yeah you are going to finish making or selling food. People/Orders come in rushes. Once the rush dies down you can prep for the next rush. Once that is done you can take a fucking break. The people who work at McDonald’s aren’t robots. Think for a goddamn second. Ever take a moment of a break at your job? They deserve that too.
Closest to this I’ve worked was a convenience store which included a deli.
In that context the way I would have seen it was that he probably would have come in and bought them anyways, so the only difference to me would be sticking them in three bags vs one. No different than anyone else asking to cut their pizza a different way or whatever other minor out of the ordinary changes customers wanted.
If we were swamped with orders then yeah I wouldn’t be happy about it, but you get over it and move on that is part of working retail.
Oh poor McDonald’s will never recover from this. Now they’ll have to treat staff a bit worse to clutch back part of the losses.
Find someone who appreciates you, chicken nugget wizard
Exactly, find a partner in crime.
You rang?
OMG, UrPartnerInCrime, guess who’s back in town. Chicken Nugget Wizard! Ya know, Hamburglars’ cute lil bro 😏🔥 He’s still single, so you should totally vibe with him and see what happens! I can already feel major chemistry! 🍆💖 Let’s get it poppin’! 😂
I’m a tech guy. I dont mind the occasional redistribution of wealth from corporations. I can even appreciate exploits found in the wild like this or doing hacking when it doesn’t hurt people.
What this signals, though, is that you are cheap. I side with the girl on this. It’s a date. Pay for the meal and show her you can be normal first.
Split the check. It’s 2024.
Yes, he was trying to come off as a cool hacker, but that’s not why she’s brushing him off.
It’s because he said “I’m in.”
Eh, I dunno why everyone is so negative about this. A knowledgeable person, free food, and (I suppose the critical point) I’m into this stuff too, so fuck yeah let’s go. And whipping out that knowledge boner on the first go? Shit, setting the bar kinda high. What’s in store for next time, gonna joyride in a new car after you take control of it remotely? Oh just take me now, I’m ready~.
Just gotta remember to torch it after, evidence is a bitch. Or so I’ve heard. Ehem. Anyway… nuggets, not a big deal, but knowledge is sexy af.
Besides. Fucking mcnuggets?
Questionable date food, but otherwise they’re fine.
No, they’re for eating.
Or maybe, just maybe, we should love people as they are and not make up stupid societal bullshit to follow for an indeterminate amount of time. I get you don’t want to let out all the crazy before you know someone, and maybe this really is too much up front and your point stands. But I don’t think it’s that grevious. Maybe they are cheap, or maybe they wanted to show how skilled they are, or maybe they thought “this is really cool to me, I hope she finds it cool too”.
Either way it’s clear she’s not a fit for him. But that’s kind of a stupid note to end things on. I hope he finds someone more tolerant and understanding that takes an interest instead of being judgy and “weirded out” by essentially a hobby.
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Maybe he’s not cheap at all. Maybe he just wants to stick it to the Man in small ways, with 30 nuggies as a reward for his hard work.
Conversely, this is a great way to filter out normals who want to pay a corporation to prove how rich they are. You just gotta be yourself and you’ll get the person that’s right for you.
Ok McDonald’s
Yah this isn’t something you break out on the first date, you really have to get to know the person and learn what their social views and politics are before you try to “subvert capitalism at the nearest mcdonalds.”
I mean, good tho that he learned early. It’s just too bad he’s going to get a billion messages asking how to do this trick exactly and McDonalds Corporation will have to patch their kiosks.
We can’t have nice things.
Or donate the value of the meal to her favorite charity
Yeah, I woulda thought this guy is a scammer and too would have moved on
Great first date if you meet on one of the infosec mastodon instances, but otherwise you just look like a dirtbag, yup.
She’s prob thinking like “oh God this guy can hack my phone”
As a straight dude, I’ll date ya Eli. Absolute legend, showing character and something different.
What am I missing? Is there a “free 10 nuggets, 1x per customer” kind of thing going on?
When you sign up on the app as a new user that’s exactly it.
Someone else posted something about the price being different based on your user profile/purchase history, so maybe having three logins, they can’t build up a proper profile.Or they have a “limit 10 per customer” thing?Edit: Guy above me posted that it was a sign-up-and-get-free-nuggets kinda thing…
You need to pull an anarchist for this to work out for you.
I personally like not knowing anything about the random dude from the Scruff app. Dates can happen after the hookup if there is some chemistry in the basement.
There’s a bunch of context missing from this. Did he tell her hey, I know a cool way we can get free McNuggets? Or did he just ask her out, took her to McDonald’s and randomly pulled out a laptop with android emulators to get free McNuggets? Context matters a lot.
If it’s the second one, it’s giving me these vibes: :
Showing off tech skills, sticking it to the man, and getting chicken nuggets? You’re great and dodged a bullet with that girl. Find someone who appreciates you!
stuffs deep fried chicken paste in mouth
your loss !
Anyone here who wants pro dating moves for 2024:
Have the ability to change your sheets right in front of your date, at least twice.
Own towels, not just one towel but sets of towels. Like an adult.
Have soap & toilet paper & hand towels in your bathroom(s)
Basically having a stocked linen closet will go a long way.
Also try being rich and fucking hot.
Not to mention that the “date” was to McDonalds.
