• @simple@lemm.ee
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    7510 months ago

    I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux-

    • @grue@lemmy.world
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      3810 months ago

      That’s the problem, though: a lot of it isn’t GNU, specifically because GNU stuff is GPLv3 and would thus stop the smart TV and IoT device makers from Tivoizing everything all to Hell. Most of that stuff is running bastardized Linux, not GNU/Linux!

      • _NoName_
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        410 months ago

        Sacrilinux - or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, sacrilege + Lin…

    • davel [he/him]
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      2010 months ago

      There are a number of Linux distributions that do not have a GNU user space, so no.

      • JATth
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        110 months ago

        The NT kernel in isolation is apparently quite “ok”, from what i have heard of it. It’s the spyware, malware, driver crap (“windows”) running on/using it which is unquestionably totally fucked and disgusting. If they were to FOSS the NT kernel, I could maybe support an such endeavor.

  • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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    5710 months ago

    I was talking to my dad about my job and how people don’t know how to use Linux. He said “Yeah, nobody uses that UNIX stuff anymore.”

    Then I pointed out that his phone and his computer both run flavors of UNIX, since he’s been using Apple products since I made him switch by not supporting his issues with Windows, and that most of the websites and apps he’s using are running Linux on the backend.

    • @uis@lemm.ee
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      910 months ago

      Well, he is correct. Linux is not UNIX. It is UNIX-like system. And Android is abomination.

          • @candybrie@lemmy.world
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            710 months ago

            I looked it up. macOS is still unix certified.

            BSD is usually not unix certified, so has to refer to itself as unix like.

            What is and isn’t unix is kind of up to what definition you’re working with (pedigree, legally, practically).

            • @uis@lemm.ee
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              110 months ago

              BSD is usually not unix certified, so has to refer to itself as unix like.

              Wait, really? Not POSIX? Huh

              Also another reason I doubt current version macos is certified is:

              “Because it’s an expensive and lengthy process. And every version will need to be re-certified.”

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              And what always gets lost in these discussions is if that old Unix stuff was so amazingly good that we should automatically assume Linux is inferior for not doing it. Even though all the old Unix vendors are basically dead now and replaced by Linux. That might have happened for a reason.

  • @unfnknblvbl@beehaw.org
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    1110 months ago

    I am constantly amused about how “next year” has been “the year of Linux on the desktop” for 20+ years. Meanwhile, Linux & BSD have pretty much completely taken over the whole world except the desktop in that same time.

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      Wish they didn’t. DIY opnsense/pfsense boxes are much harder for finding compatible NICs because they’re on BSD. Conversely, used enterprise-level NICs often have better drivers on Linux than Windows.

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      Actual desktops are going the way of the dodo for the mass market and Linux netbooks are quite popular. With Microsoft’s current strategy of making a product that is worse and worse for low powered devices, I honestly think it’ll happen sooner, except for businesses.