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trustworthy AI
Our initial offering will include ChatGPT, Google Gemini, HuggingChat, and Le Chat Mistral
What
Defund Mozilla lmao. Absolute shipwreck of a company at this point.
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If you are so keen to know, then you will just have to wait a few more years. Firefoxes development is rapidly derailing into nonsense recently. They will have to either kick out their current leadership or they will be reduced to a data sucking, adware company sooner or later.
Oh yes, as opposed to Google or Microsoft who definitely aren’t already data-sucking, predatory adware companies. No thanks, I’ll stick with the lesser evil.
If you’re going to lie to everyone at least make it sound believable.
Do you read any tech news? If so how did u miss every single mozilla headline of the past months? Something being the lesser evil doesnt turn truths into lies.
You’ve read the articles? Cool, can you give me a rundown of all the terrible things Mozilla has done in the past months?
So you admit you’re only reading headlines and base your opinion on it?
Did the thought cross your mind that all the billion dollar companies behind for-profit browsers might have an interest in Firefox failing?
Who do we turn to for a browser? Not chromium based I don’t trust google codebase.
Idk I still hope a Servo-based browser somehow materializes itself someday, but if/when that happens, who knows.
Yeah idk either sadly. But i know that having only two relevant browsers on the market is like the US party system. Destined to fail.
Nothing lasts forever just like Steam or anything else will one day turn to shit. But pretending like everything is fine will just lead to lots of “we shouldve seen it coming”.
I think it comes down to what you’re willing to sacrifice. If I can do banking that’s the hard line for me, so JS at the very least.
“Trustworthy AI” + Recent aquisiton of an advertising analytics company + a call for people to inform on third party sources of Firefox = Down the enshitification rabbit hole we go.
Any recommendations of a good alternative on android? I’m thinking I’ll move to librewolf on desktop but they don’t appear to have an android version.
I use a fork from F-Droid called Fennec. I’m not sure off the top of my head how closely it tracks with upstream feature-wise but I know it strips out all of Mozilla’s tracking components and it’s always updated within a couple days of the upstream release.
Thanks for the recommendation, I’ll check it out!
I use Fennec F-Droid on Android and LibreWolf on Linux/Mac/Windows.
Thanks for the recommendation :D
Why does my open source browser need proprietary SaaS products stuffed into it?
Isn’t this what extensions are for?
It also has google stuffed into it, and apparently the new consensus is that you need AI just as much for browsing as a search engine
Who else is gonna parse through the AI search results? Not me.
Firefox has a tendency to embed optional extensions as impossible to uninstall core features these days, so it would not change much.
I wish they spent their time fixing bugs, rather than implementing this bullshit
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I strongly believe that generative AI is catastrophically misused in the vast majority of its applications, so in my eyes, adding gpt-based AI to the browser is largely a wasted effort
I highly doubt they have one team that switches between experiments and bug fixes, never doing two things at once. Not to mention that something ultimately being ripped out isn’t necessarily wasted effort. They could likely easily pivot virtually anything they put into this specific experiment into any number of other uses.
Honestly, the worst part of the AI craze is that so many people hear AI now and immediately hate it even though it can really do some amazing stuff, e.g. in medicine. AI as a blanket term just has so much variance, there’s a ton of trash and a ton of great stuff.
Part of the problem is that all ads anymore want push their version of “AI” in your face and some of these “AI” are nothing new just rebranded.
Part of my research as an undergrad was working with PLSA. It’s very much an algorithm.
Pretty sure the only thing I wouldn’t object to AI being used for in Firefox would be ad blocking. Surely they’re going to use this for that right?
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Right?
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Shit.
native tab grouping would be a much more desirable feature, to me
No fuckin’ thanks.
The way I see AI being implemented into Firefox, regardless of whether it’s gonna be opt-in or out in the future is that they need to keep up with the latest browser trends in the future. If they don’t, they will definitely lose more of whatever probably small amount of remaining normies who don’t use edge or chrome but instead opt for Firefox. They’re not tech literate enough to see a conveniently placed ad telling them that xyz browser now uses AI security features and Firefox doesn’t and discern the fact that it’s a ploy to get them to switch. We need more normies if we really want a chance to keep Firefox more than just treadingn water, and the best way is to offer more random bullshit of the week to keep them from switching to a competitor.
Why Mozilla? Why? You were the chosen one… Fuck it, I’m going back to lynx! Tabs? Sure we have tabs in lynx, just run lynx in tmux
Any good forks without AI? I really don’t want that AI companies with my data.
They’re not just giving these AI companies your data…
It’s an optional feature, and you would choose which model you use. If you choose not to use it, or disable the feature, nobody will recieve your data. If you want a browser without these features, Librewolf will likely be a safe choice, as I don’t seem them adding this.
Were in the code is this? When you use ChatGPT (example), the platform pulls in the data.
Ill give Librewolf a try, thanks.
As long as I can disable it, sure. Knock yourself out.
Anyone have any other good suggestions for Firefox alternatives? Sounds like I may be needing to switch soon.
I highly recommend everyone making the switch to LibreWolf. It’s a custom version of Firefox that focuses on the things that matter like privacy and security, while cutting out the annoyances that Mozilla loves to add to their browsers.
Oh. This looks great. Thank you for sharing.
Also Firefox but less shitty.
There are none.
Well shit.
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They actually plan to use some local stuff in addition to the rest, otherwise I don’t trust anything OpenAI/Google.
I hope they add DuckDuckGo as a provider. I use their chat with Mixtral often.
Mixtral is the best of all without doubts. I use as a daily driver too and thr fact that it has loose censorship (until now) give me always great awnsers.
