• @Weirdfish@lemmy.world
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    5211 months ago

    This is 100% my girlfriend, and I take great pleasure in never correcting her, I find it charming.

    • @Classy@sh.itjust.works
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      511 months ago

      Mine is full of ‘oreos’ (Oreoles), ‘emeralds’ (Admirals), ‘see-ment’ (cement), and very cute regionalisms like ‘roundy-rounds’ (roundabouts). I love it

    • @Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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      211 months ago

      Better than my one friend. He seems to only correct pronunciations. It’s gotten to the point that he denies idioms if he hasn’t heard of them before. I don’t actively seek him out anymore.

      • @Weirdfish@lemmy.world
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        211 months ago

        Thing is, I know she knows exactly what she is saying. The context is correct, she knows what the words mean, she just didn’t grow up around people who spoke that wide a vocabulary, and while working in blue collar trades, she was looked down on for all them fancy college words.

        She can swear with the best pipe fitters, well, because she was a union pipe fitter.

        Language is so fluid, people who get too hung up on syntax and not the substance really annoy me.

        When I was in the military, one of the smartest people I knew was from the bayou of Louisiana. To me, a yank, he sounded like a complete idiot, and in fact I often couldn’t understand him when we first met. Once I was able to look past his mode of speech, and actually listen to him, I realised what an ignorant fuck I was being.

  • @Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    5211 months ago

    As someone who has learned the English language primarily by reading thousands of books, I wholeheartedly agree. On the other hand, English pronounciation sucks big time.

    • @elvith@discuss.tchncs.de
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      4911 months ago

      When the English tongue we speak.
      Why is break not rhymed with freak?
      Will you tell me why it’s true
      We say sew but likewise few?
      And the maker of the verse,
      Cannot rhyme his horse with worse?
      Beard is not the same as heard
      Cord is different from word.
      Cow is cow but low is low
      Shoe is never rhymed with foe.
      Think of hose, dose,and lose
      And think of goose and yet with choose
      Think of comb, tomb and bomb,
      Doll and roll or home and some.
      Since pay is rhymed with say
      Why not paid with said I pray?
      Think of blood, food and good.
      Mould is not pronounced like could.
      Wherefore done, but gone and lone -
      Is there any reason known?
      To sum up all, it seems to me
      Sound and letters don’t agree.

    • @acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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      211 months ago

      Like, how THE FSCK would I know that a geoduck is pronounced gooey-duck? Also geo-duck sounds like a Pokémon, so that’s gotta be right.

      • @Treczoks@lemmy.world
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        311 months ago

        geoduck

        Hey, at least it is a nice, short word. In German, it is an “Elephantenrüsselmuschel” (elephant trunk clam). At least there is absolutely no question how it is pronounced, so that’s that.

        • @acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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          211 months ago

          German pronunciation rules are awesome. If only you could get rid of some of your consonants, I’d be able to pronounce any German word.

          • @Treczoks@lemmy.world
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            211 months ago

            If only you could get rid of some of your consonants, I’d be able to pronounce any German word.

            You probably dislike the German variants of “ch” as much as the Germans loathe the English “th” ;-)

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              Out of Rohrbacherstrasse, I could pronounce Ro, ba, and strasse. German has like 5 different R sounds and I can pronounce 2 of them. And yet most of you can’t pronounce the vibrating R in my name.

              And I hate English’s TH as well, both sounds of it, and especially the insistence in using it next to S. How am I supposed to pronounce “clothes” with any grace or dignity left?

              No, my mother tongue isn’t Germanic, but Celtic-Latin with a lot of Banto and Tupi thrown in for mellowing.

  • ObstreperousCanadian
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    3611 months ago

    The one that I mispronounced for awhile was hyperbole. I thought it was pronounced like “hyper bowl.”

  • Trailblazing Braille Taser
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    2811 months ago

    I always knew that “misled” in books (pronounced mīzulled) and the spoken “misled” (mis-led) meant the same thing, but it took me until high school to figure out that mīzulled was only in my head.

  • KingJalopy
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    2111 months ago

    Not me! I only read audiobooks, so I know how to pronounce all those $5 words!

    (Just don’t know what they mean or how to use them)

    • peto (he/him)
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      2011 months ago

      Bold of you to trust the performer knows how to say the words.

      • @Wogi@lemmy.world
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        1011 months ago

        A decent performer will likely verify words they’re unfamiliar with. If it’s being read by the book’s author it’s anybody’s guess.

        I’m looking at YOU Gibson

        • @TheTetrapod@lemmy.world
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          611 months ago

          I don’t know how many times I’ve heard professional audiobook readers say casualty instead of causality. They might have a higher hit rate, but not 100%.

          • dream_weasel
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            311 months ago

            Those are just causality casualties then. I’ve had good luck with performers, but it may depend what you’re reading interest is

  • @Trickloss@lemmy.world
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    Some names would also throw me for a loop. When I first heard how they said “Hermione”, I was quite flabbergasted.

  • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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    1311 months ago

    I said “miss happen” one time in front of my girlfriend. “What?”

    “You know, like badly shaped, deformed.”

    “Misshapen?! BAH HAH HA HAA!”

    • @Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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      211 months ago

      I don’t speak Spanish, but do Spanish authors pull the same shit English ones do, where they give characters absolutely nonsense names with ambiguous pronunciations? Is it even possible? I will read a name of a character or place and spend the next 20 chapters reading the word twice or three times in different ways.

  • @Hikermick@lemmy.world
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    1211 months ago

    I grew up reading Warner Bros comic books my grandma had and thought Yosemite Sam was pronounced “Yosemight”. Eventually figured it out. Later my backpacking buddy and I were looking at a map of California when he told me we should check out “Yosemight” if we ever get around to visiting Yosemite

  • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    1111 months ago

    Truth…hah! I still have words I have to look up on the sly on the internet and click one of those definition services that will pronounce the word for you so I don’t sound completely wrong.

    • @Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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      511 months ago

      I pronounced epitome epi-tome for the longest time. Now as I read, I pop onto Google when I encounter something I’m unfamiliar with. And I’m 36, my job has me fairly familiar with the English language, but I swear some writers discover a word and they’re like “can’t wait to use this two or three times in the next couple chapters.”

      It’s that and character/place names, but character names are dangerous lookups, spoiled a plot in WoT looking up how to pronounce Moraine. And the worst part is her name’s pretty obvious, but I fucking looked it up anyway. I thought Hermione was obvious as a kid, but that’s probably because I transposed the I and O, now that I think about it.

      • @tempest@lemmy.ca
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        411 months ago

        I was teasing my significant other about her epi-tome but then she caught me with indictment so we’re back on equal footing.

  • Flying Squid
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    1111 months ago

    As someone whose father had a doctorate in English, I grew up reading and being told off every time I mispronounced a word.

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        I loved my dad, but he was always a professor, so proper English was a priority. Honestly, that particular aspect of my upbringing is not one of the upsetting or traumatic parts.

        Interestingly though, I recently learned that he drilled something that was essentially incorrect into my head. He grew up in the UK and, when he was growing up, it was proper to write “an historic.” Here in the US and now usually in the UK, it is “a historic.” I’ve been using “an historic” for decades.

        If you want to talk about the shitty thing about having an English professor for a father, it’s when you show him a piece of creative writing and he responds by telling you about all the mistakes you’ve made rather than what he thinks of it. Again, I loved the guy, but he was always a professor.

        On the other hand, he ended up becoming a film historian and growing up with a film historian for a father is pretty amazing.

        (Thanks on the health front, we’re working on it.)

  • @Snowclone@lemmy.world
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    1111 months ago

    I did this, and grew up in a ESL English only house,I pronounce so many words wrong with a perfect American accent.

    • @vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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      311 months ago

      Which American accent? We talken west coast standard, East Coast standard, Appalachian, Yooper, Inland Imperial, Bakersfield, Rocky Mountain North or South ya gotta he more specific.

  • @voracitude@lemmy.world
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    in-ter-MINE-able / in-TERM-in-able

    Is one that jumps to mind which I still cock up to this day, I feel a little called out 😂

  • @norimee@lemmy.world
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    911 months ago

    I feel like this is especially true for English since it seems to me there are no spelling rules that convey pronunciation. You can have 2 words spelled completely the same save from one letter and the pronunciation is nowhere near the same.

    I’m not sure how this is in other languages, but in my native german (which is always said to be difficult to learn) when you understand the spelling rules you can always assume the correct pronunciation of a word. Certain letter combinations always amount to the same way of pronouncing it.

    I guess this is because both languages started out in the germanic language family, but over the course of history english adapted way more from other languages and just made them their own. Including differences in spelling, but maybe not as much pronunciation. Best example is “Bologna”, which is still the italian/latin spelling, but no one near italy would call it “Baloney” .

    I’m always amazed at how native speakers learn to write things like that, since you cant count on what you hear at all.

    • @pyre@lemmy.world
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      211 months ago

      You can have 2 words spelled completely the same save from one letter and the pronunciation is nowhere near the same.

      ftfy:

      if you read a lot then you’re well-read