Next year Windows 10 goes End of Life. Microsoft will undoubtedly push windows 11 hard, but a lot of machines won’t support it leading to a few economic points of interest:

The demand for new machines will be high, driving up cost.

The supply of unsupported machines will be high, driving down the used market.

Are you all ready?

  • Lemminary
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    941 year ago

    If MS decides that my hardware is obsolete, I’ll just go full Linux 🤷‍♂️

    • @Trollception@lemmy.world
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      21 year ago

      My machine is 7 years old and runs fine on Windows 11. I don’t understand all these posts about Windows 11 not being supported. TPMs have been a thing for 10+ years now.

      • metaStatic
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        81 year ago

        Apple is king of new OS doesn’t work on the old hardware though

        • @Petter1@lemm.ee
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          31 year ago

          Yes! Luckily the opensource folks are crazy and make awesome progress reversing m chips It matters to me because somday (maybe 10y) I’ll get the one of my mother for free 😂 like i got my other apple PCs (running Arch/endeavourOS)

    • @PassingThrough@lemmy.world
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      01 year ago

      Do you game at all? Gaming on Linux has made great strides, be be fair, but for a lot of titles you still need to consider a dual boot of some form of Windows, thanks to over the top anti-cheat, DRM, and developer support.

      Something to consider for the gamers out there.

      • @kava@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        The only titles that don’t work in Linux are the ones with invasive anti-cheat, some multi-player titles.

        Virtually all single players game work. I’ve had games that don’t work on Windows due to crashes / performance but run on Linux.

  • @Dagamant@lemmy.world
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    661 year ago

    Yeah, people are just going to keep using it, they just won’t get updates. That means they will be vulnerable to any exploits that come along afterward but most people don’t care. M$ shot everyone in the foot when they decided to limit windows 11 compatibility.

    When windows 7 came out I knew people who stuck with windows xp until they bought a new computer with 10 or 11 on it. The market will get a slight bump from EoL but it isn’t going to force everyone with windows 10 to run out and buy a new computer immediately.

    • MrScottyTay
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      191 year ago

      It’s mostly just to force the hands of businesses that will now have to upgrade to stay compliant with security standards

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️
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        71 year ago

        Which is probably the play. I’d doubt Microsoft really gives a flying fuck about home users buying licenses anymore, since their revenue model for consumer Windows is just ads and data harvesting now anyway.

    • @Brkdncr@lemmy.worldOP
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      11 year ago

      Your machine needs to be around a decade old to be incompatible I think.

      MS shot itself by being so backwards compatible.

      The primary requirements are TPM, a security feature.

  • nafzib
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    421 year ago

    With Valve pumping all that development money and effort into proton, I will finally be able to go full Linux before Windows 10 ends it’s life. I only needed it for gaming, but those days are finally gone! Thanks Valve! _

  • @joneskind@lemmy.world
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    271 year ago

    IMHO people just won’t give a flying fuck about it. Most people won’t even be aware of it.

    They’ll upgrade when they’ll buy a new PC, just as usual.

  • @moon@lemmy.ml
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    231 year ago

    There are people out there still using Windows XP. Not everyone will jump because Microsoft is trying to force their hand

  • @SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works
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    201 year ago

    We are trialing about 20 Linux desktops (10 Linux mint and 10 zorin OS) across 2 of our MSP clients.

    So far, they have had zero technical tickets in 6 months. They did have double the average user training tickets compared to windows machines. Most of the questions were around how to work with editable PDFs and where is the document was they just saved (file manager questions).

    Zorin OS seems to be winning on the usability metrics. Its very polished and more closely matching the UI of people coming from windows.

  • @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    151 year ago

    Corporations (the only people who actually care about their OS being in support) upgrade their machines every few years so they’ve already done that. Home users don’t know what that means and won’t care. The remaining 2% have already installed linux.

  • TimeSquirrel
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    Already got my NEW 12-core machine before prices go up, running Debian 100%. With my 25 year history of using Linux and pirating Windows, MS never saw a damn penny from me, and I’m proud of that fact. Not even an OEM license (all my laptops I ever had were work supplied and I build my own PCs)

    • @Brkdncr@lemmy.worldOP
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      11 year ago

      Yeah I recently purchased a new laptop to replace the one I’ve had for 12 years. Hoping to get another 12 years out of it and I didn’t want to fight the enterprise customers.

  • AlteredStateBlob
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    111 year ago

    Using rufus it’s pretty easy to install windows 11 without meeting their bullshit requirements.

    Did that for my work laptop, which is getting old but runs just fine. Including windows 11.

    Plenty of reasons to switch to Linux, but this can be circumvented. And anyone who doesn’t know how to, because it is too complicated shouldn’t really switch to Linux anyway IMO, because they will already run into trouble with finding compatible printers, getting software for proprietary hardware they are using, etc.

  • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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    91 year ago

    I’m seriously considering making Tiny11 my daily driver on my gaming desktop.

    I’m about to start a prolonged test run on my new to me secondhand laptop as soon as my ADHD brain lets me remember at an opportune time to actually do it 😄

    • Victor
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      Do you have a to-do list somewhere, analog or digital? Definitely helps me remember all the shit I need to remember.

      I pick something every day to do off of it. Probably add more than 7 things during the week though. 🫣

      • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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        31 year ago

        Keeping lists has not really worked for me to the point that I’m actively averse to them, especially in paper form.

        In stead I make do with alarms and making sure that my days are hardly ever busy so that I and my very basic system don’t get overwhelmed lol

        • @aStonedSanta@lemm.ee
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          21 year ago

          Same here. I have to set an alert/notification. I like to set it three times 5 mins apart. Usually works. Lol

          • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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            21 year ago

            I usually set one 24h before the thing, one 1h before I have to leave for the thing, and sometimes an extra one 2h before lol

            • @aStonedSanta@lemm.ee
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              21 year ago

              Haha glad we have both found something that works for us. I might steal that 24hr one. Could spur me to just do it then you miss all the shots you don’t take or whatever eh? 🙏

              • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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                21 year ago

                Oh shit, I forgot to mention the most important one: the “just in time to slowly get ready and still have a couple of minutes to stand at the bus stop wondering if the damn thing is EVER coming” alarm 😄

  • Fake4000
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    1 year ago

    Honestly, once a Microsoft OS goes end of life, it becomes a great offline machine to run older software and games.

    Guaranteed not to be pissed around with Microsoft updates.

  • @daniskarma@lemmy.world
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    71 year ago

    Finally I don’t need my computer for working, they provided us with company laptops, so I don’t need to worry about compatibility and windows only programs anymore.

    So you know what I’m going to do once windows 10 reaches eol.

    For my it will certainly be the year of desktop linux.