• “I am no longer accepting the things I cannot change. I am changing the things I cannot accept.”

    • Angela Davis, for those who didn’t know the reference
    • @octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
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      I love Angela Davis. I really need to learn more about her. I saw this video posted somewhere during 2020, and for folks who can resist the urge to impatiently skip past what she’s setting up in the beginning, the payoff at the end of her response to the banal question of whether she supports violence for her cause is (IMO) exceptionally powerful.

      https://youtu.be/2HnDONDvJVE

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          It’s actually kinda short, but the first time I watched it I think I didn’t expect what she describes at the beginning to play so directly into her final words, nor to be so very personal at one tragic point. I think I was kinda going “OK I know awful things were happening back then” I’m embarrassed to say. Once realizing that she was putting all that together for a specific purpose, I had to go back and watch it word for word - so I could have been projecting my own general impatience with video clips onto others. :)

      • Enkrod
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        101 year ago

        It’s her reversal of the Serenity Prayer, changing it into a call to action instead of acceptance of the (seemingly) inevitable.

        • I wouldn’t describe it as a reversal, the actual serenity prayer as stated already has the “courage to change the things I can,” so anything that is within the speaker’s ability to change should already be covered. And the last part, the wisdom to know the difference, already asks to have the ability to discern the two categories, and seeks to avoid accepting the things that can be changed.

          It’s clever, but doesn’t actually say anything the serenity prayer itself doesn’t already say.

    • @micka190@lemmy.world
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      Because American media keeps pushing the idea that the Democrats are “the left” and because Democrats oppose guns because the Republicans promote them, they equate owning a gun with being a part of “the right”.

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        Also far right conservative men are given all the permission in the world to threaten violence whereas many groups of people on the left, and leftism in general are defined by conservatives as inherently dangerous which both makes it practically much more dangerous to own guns and carry them (because you will just got shot by a cop and the cop won’t even get in trouble they can just say “they looked dangerous”) and also makes a culture of responsible gun ownership way harder to grow because the societal conditions around it are aggressively hostile to leftwing people owning guns.

        Listen to the way centrists talk about the threat of violence from the far left and far right in the US, of course there are shitty, dangerous people on the left, but to compare the two as if there were similar amounts of violence coming from both is a ridiculous misstatement of reality.

        • @SupraMario@lemmy.world
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          The fuck are you talking about, cops don’t ask what your political lean is…if they want to shot you they will. Being a responsible gun owner also has nothing to do with politics, get strapped and keep the 4 rules in mind. There are a ton of us on the left who own guns and more and more are arming themselves on the left.

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            51 year ago

            The fuck are you talking about, cops don’t ask what your political lean is…

            As someone who noticed the difference between how police treated BLM protestors vs Jan 06 insurrectionists I think it’s pretty clear that if they do have an inkling of your leanings it’s gonna make a difference, at least in preconceived notions as they enter into their interaction with you, and how aggressively they come at you in the first place.

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                Depending on what you are implying regarding which was which, I have a hunch we aren’t going to agree on that detail, and I’m doubtful either will change the others mind, so I’m just going to cut this off here.

                Edited because my original wording was nearly gibberish.

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                  I’m saying the insurrectionists were armed, as well as the idiot protestors outside of many State Capitol buildings, and so the cops are a lot more apprehensive about harassing or confronting them than they were towards BLM protestors. There was a lot more at play on January 6th than just being armed though, including ideological alignment, and support from high level politicians.

          • @Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world
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            -21 year ago

            Whats funny is I keep hearing about bots and operatives on Lemmy that go around promoting things that arent the status quo like we are the next social media. And the kind of people saying it thinks everyone needs to stick to a party line or else! Like or else what? If I do not love every thing Big Dem is pushing, I am a Russian shill bot trying to destroy America. The downvotes you have are from people barely able to form thoughts past doing what they are told.

      • @Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
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        Yeah - in non US places gun ownership only means one thing: you own a gun. It says nothing about your politics. And yes, US democrats being referred to as “left” is ridiculous. The Democrat party wouldn’t even be a centrist party in most (western) democracies.

        • @Anticorp@lemmy.world
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          21 year ago

          Believe it or not, there are plenty of Democrat and Republican gun owners alike who view gun ownership the same as you do, and don’t make it their entire identity, political or otherwise. We just don’t get constantly exposed to that reality, because it doesn’t make for interesting headlines, or divisive online debate.

          • @Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
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            31 year ago

            Good. I’m glad. I had my suspicions that was the case but it’s nice to have it confirmed by an insider. I always struggled to believe that an entire nation of so many millions of people would have a one size fits all pro/anti stance on any one topic; it’d be absurd.

          • @Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
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            Pepsi - the choice of a new generation… of woke, pronoun-shifting libtards. As an aside I like your spelling. It’s reminded me to listen to Ice Cube’s Amerikkka’s Most Wanted again.

    • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
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      An armed left is like base level marxism

      And then what?

      Suppose you get falsely charged by the state because of your politics, what are you going to do? Get into armed conflict against the police officers coming to arrest you?

      Is that what Steven Donziger should have done?

      • @Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Then you get your single shot rifle and storm the the king’s palace with it, against a bunch of people with single shot rifles, kill them all, kill a king, all his family, and thus establish a military goverment. Because it’s apparently it’s 19th century now.

        • Then you get your single shot rifle and storm the the king’s palace with it, against a bunch of people with single shot rifles, kill them all, kill a king, all his family

          Sounds good

          thus establish a military goverment.

          Nah, I just defeated the military. I would prefer a less authoritarian system

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            When you killed everyone in a coup, you are by definition a new military. You might prefer less authoritarian system now, but all your friends who are running around with rifles trying to do a coup are in it for power, it’s just how the selection process goes, for everyone bright eyed idealist who will immediately relinquish his absolute authority that he just won by fighting a civil war, there will be 10 people who fought in civil war to get this absolute authority.
            We know that, because actually I deceived you earlier, it’s not 19th century now, and we already saw how that happened. And also, both technologies and situations are different now

            • When you killed everyone in a coup

              I didn‘t kill „everybody“. I killed the king, his family and his guards and maybe his ministers or generals

              you are by definition a new military

              No, I am a member of one of many militias

              all your friends who are running around with rifles trying to do a coup are in it for power

              Not all of them, but I understand what you mean

              for everyone bright eyed idealist who will immediately relinquish his absolute authority that he just won by fighting a civil war, there will be 10 people who fought in civil war to get this absolute authority.

              Yes. Thats how war works.

              both technologies and situations are different now

              Exactly

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                I didn‘t kill „everybody“. I killed the king, his family and his guards and maybe his ministers or generals

                Not how civil wars work unfortunately

                No, I am a member of one of many militias

                Which makes you a part of the military power of the new rule. So yeah.

                Yes. Thats how war works.

                Yes. That’s my point actually.

                Exactly

                Ok, but that’s worse. You do get how that’s worse, right?

    • The impression is that the left is the only side calling for gun control.

      Despite the most sweeping gun control implemented by Reagan, and Trumpty dumpty literally floated illegal search and seizure for firearms.

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        21 year ago

        perhaps at the federal level, but California and Washington liberals have passed sweeping gun control laws that severely impinge on law abiding citizens, and the AFT under Biden criminalized brace pistols, turning millions of law abiding citizens into criminals overnight. Only a SC ruling kept them from pursuing arrest for people who legally purchased their firearms, including a full background check for their purchases.

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    It’s never been about left and right. It’s always been a war with the owner class and everyone else.

    We occasionally forget; until everything falls apart and greed ruins everything. That’s when the fight starts again.

  • shanie
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    True story for Americans: You should exercise your 2nd Amendment right unless you want only the Right to have guns.

    If you actually listened to the Right’s leaders, they’re openly telling you that you should be picking out your favorite at the shop now.

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      Yeah I’m becoming increasingly nervous with the blue states systematically trying to disarm everyone and the red states are trying to whip everyone into a traitorous frenzy over the dumbest shit while arming everyone with a pulse.

      Otoh, and this probably sounds absolutely fucking nuts, I’ve found republicans tend to understand “strength” and they are strangely respectful of liberal and leftist gun owners because that’s a dynamic they can comprehend. It’s not a good state of affairs but it’s better than them believing they can just run things because they’re the only ones with “strength”

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        A militia made of a bunch of greasy brainwashed boomers would be put down in a couple days at most, even if it consisted of the entire population of republicans.

        • It would be an insane mistake to underestimate that group. Like the other comments said, they are the Taliban and the military/police. However even if they somehow weren’t, it still means we have potentially tens of millions of domestic terrorists running around armed to the teeth and that’s not a great feeling.

        • @gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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          21 year ago

          Would you really be down with dipshits like the proud boys and 3%ers acting like brownshirts and pulling a modern day krystallnacht? They already did a thing pretty damn close to the Reichstag Fire back in the beginning of 2021, and that crowd was not, shall we say, our best and brightest. You don’t have to be smart to be a thug.

  • Phoenixz
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    01 year ago

    Lovely, everyone in this thread is exactly the same as a trump supporter but a left version of it. You guys are a wet dream for the NRA

    • @BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
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      91 year ago

      The horseshoe theory is a bullshit idea cooked up by politically deficient liberals to cope with everyone thinking they’re a joke

    • Ok I hate all of this.

      They’re not the same, but they’re kind of the same personality type. They frequently care about the same things, they just want very aggressive change to fix them. The issue is the path to get there and those are wildly different in terms of what the problem is and the underlying world view.

  • @Etterra@lemmy.world
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    -221 year ago

    WTF is with her nails? Is painting each hand a different color a thing with the kids now? Also those are claws but I’ve seen that before IRL.

    • @UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee
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      21 year ago

      Her left hand is red and her right is blue. Perhaps to demonstrate how politics works for the unknowing?