"Day 33: Problematic symptoms developing in Patient X. Current fluctuations from the implant are causing unwanted signals in the somatosensory cortex. The patient is expressing aggressive behavior as a result, presumably due to the interference of the implant on normal sensory function. It is unknown what is causing the fluctuations.
Day 45: Patient X sedated following a violent outburst that injured a staff member. fMRI scans indicate an uptick in activity in the premotor cortex compared to the previous scan four days ago. Patient X not responding well to the Brain-Computer Interface. Violent aggression may not be consciously controllable.
Day 46: Patient X escaped Secure Room Alpha. Lockdown initiated. Quarantine measures are now in effect. There is a loud banging on the lab door. This might be my last journal entry. Before I leave this Earth, please let the shareholders know I created value for them."
i remember rightwingers, the same who praise elon musk lately, screamed for months about implanting chips during covid vaccinations. oh the irony.
And that wasn’t even real. They howled about a fake scenario, and then praise the actual event happening.
large number of conservative/rightwing blabbering about others, pointing fingers and blaming various imagionary boogiemen, with time somehow manages to endup as their projection. it’s becoming a rule.
The right wingers were not angry about microchips in the blood. They were angry about secret, non-consensual, microchips in the blood.
Please don’t make me say these stupid disclaimers: I don’t think covid vaccines contain microchips.
Anyway, it was about consent, not a moral outrage at implanted chips. A moral outrage at secret microchips implanted by government directive under cover of emergency powers.
they were sour about everything covid related. it was all made up, it wasn’t real, but china made it, masks were problem, they couldn’t breathe, secret cabala, fascism, vaccinations was bill gates’s genocide chip implating for mind control.
they insisted on all kinds of nonsense because they didn’t believe it, as they are neck-deep in conspiracy theories and delusion.
Well sure, they’ll accept any stupid shit that a lying corporation does.
Security Log day 42: Our request for a proper security door was denied. “Just buy a master lock, it’s cheaper” was the reply.
Oh well, I’ll make something work. Right after my quick meeting with HR.
[Last log entry]
And the meat grinding wheels of capitalism just keep on churning.
Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale
Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don’t Create The Torment Nexus
That especially applies to Elon, who claimed that Douglas Adams inspired his dream of creating an AI. The same Douglas Adams that only wrote about AIs that were faulty, assholes or both.
I like Marvin. He reminds me of me.
I thought you ought to know I’m feeling very depressed for you.
June 9th: Of the original four dozen, over 75% are now deceased. Strangely, no clear patterns have emerged as of yet.
Batch 5 seems to have no common discernible effect on any specific group though the men seem slightly more resilient than the women.
June 18: And only five left now. Two men and three women.
The man in room five is a fascinating case. Physically, there doesn’t seem to be anything wrong with him. No cellular anomalies, nothing.
December 24th: I was in the mess. It was about half past ten when we heard the first explosion.
The ones at the front ran straight into the gas. It was horrible.
It was the man in room five. I couldn’t have known. The chemical supplies, grease solvents, ammonia, fertilizer. He’d been making things with them.
Mustard gas… And napalm.
And in the yard, I saw him. He had the flames behind him. He was naked.
He looked at me…
As if I were an insect. Oh god. As if I were something mounted on a slide.
He looked at me.
In View, a humble Vaudevillian Veteran, cast Vicariously as both Victim and Villain by the Vicissitudes of fate.
Jesus that last line really got me! Too real for me fam.
Day 47: patient x dies of covid variant know as osnfbejcjdkd theta. /S
Imagine voluntarily granting an advertising company direct access to your brain.
Linux neuralink edition gon be funnnnn
Probably the drivers I’d want to try to maintain and get working the least.
78 developers across the globe. No one can agree on direction and half drop out in 3 months to fork it. Several forks happen and they all fail, and a few survive but become mutually incompatible.
You download a poorly tested update via brain apt-get and lose the ability to use the letter k.
A successful fork takes off and everyone uses it but then IBM buys it. Now big blue owns your brain and charges insane licenses fees.
You forgot to pay your subscription, and wake up blind. Your eyes have been deactivated until you bring your account current.
I don’t feel like advertisements in general are that much different. Constant assault, every medium, weaponized brain washing. I bet that given a cue you could perfectly hum the tunes of at least a hundred or so jingles that you weren’t aware of infesting you brain.
Has anyone a TL;DR why they could do that? Last time I heard anything about Neuralink they were mass killing animals with botched implants.
Enough animals died. Now humans have their turn
Fucking finally.
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Do we have any concrete evidence that he’s even telling the truth? Something other than a tweet on a platform he owns? He seems to lie often.
Smells a lot like “Funding secured” or any of the other insane promises he’s made.
There’s the hyper loop, the cyber truck missing deadlines and quality concerns and range lies, all of the Tesla delays, etc
That said they did FDA approval for human trials last May https://www.reuters.com/science/elon-musks-neuralink-gets-us-fda-approval-human-clinical-study-brain-implants-2023-05-25/
FDA fell asleep at the wheel
Recommend you watch Fall of the House of Usher on Netflix for three answer. Also because it’s amazing.
no, you’re amazing !
I heard there were some amazing people in this thread?
Looks like they were right
Musk can’t even make a proper ev why would anyone want a product of his in their brain.
When the patient dies Musk’s team will write a report saying it was the patient’s fault.
Look, he’s all about free speech and free thought. But if people are going around using the wrong free speech and thinking the wrong free thoughts, they leave him no choice but to… Correct the problem. /s
Don’t worry, Musk is a man of highest ethics. He would never rush such a product and risk people getting brain damage. Or extort them for subscription costs later. Just don’t ever Google “NeuraLink monkey deaths,” 'k?
Or, you know, “[literally any medicine] [literally any kind of lab animal] deaths”
Not a pretty picture.
Patient didn‘t tell them about their Bill Gates microchip duh.
A year from now: “First Nueralink implant recipient dead after it exploded in his brain, sending shrapnel directly through his frontal lobe”
Exploding brain implant is a cool way to die and a great punk band name.
“We’re Brain Implant Explosion and we’re here to make you afraid of the inevitable rise of the machine and stuff! One! Two! Three! Four!”
Elon, is that you?
Agreed but also not like musk is really doing anything at any of these companies. He brings funding yea but then just takes credit for their work and gives publicity, although lately bad publicity
If it would help making soldiers perform better it will get funding and approval…
Musk can’t even make a proper ev
Wow
If you’re gonna complain about the other models being good you should know he had nothing to do with any of them, other than buying the company and demanding workers sleep on the factory floor to meet fulfilment. Every company he is the face of was someone else’s ideas and effort, all the way back to the 90s. He supplies capital and in return people who don’t understand the subject matter assume he knows what he’s talking about because he gets quoted a lot.
Oh you’re right. No CEO does any of their products. I see what you mean now.
He knows how to run a company that produces EVs, but he does not, in fact, produce EVs
He knows how to pump the stock. He has no idea how to run a company either. His skill to date is being clued up at a conceptual level on tech at a young age and being in the right place at the right time, having some charisma and knowing how to appear smaet. In terms of skill set he’s way closer to trump than an actual engineer or CEO.
Do people think this is new? We have been able to do this for decades. I’m a lowly PhD student and even I get to work with humans whose brains we are actively recording from (although I don’t put the electrodes in there myself).
Just another instance of Muskrat talking about things he doesn’t know. I used to think he was a genius when he was talking about rockets, then he started talking about things I know (neuro & AI)…
Elon never invents anything new. He finds a complex concept, scuffs off at it’s complexity and announces it’s actually really simple. Creates company that over-simplifies things.
Sometimes his project fails enough times that it starts working (space x).
He has so much money that he can keep doing it. And hire the best in the field - there’s no money in academia so of course they’ll go. And then he’ll take credit for their hard work eventually of course.
Screw Elon, but to be fair…that’s most business and science. You try, fail, adjust, try again, rinse and repeat until you find success.
So what are actually useful applications that might be feasible soon for this kind of stuff? I could google it but I’d mostly get a bunch of sensationalist BS that is meant to generate clicks.
Basically three things -
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BCI - Brain Computer Interface. This can allow people with disabilities to control prosthetics using their brains. For example, this one from 20+ yrs ago. They are in clinical trial stages now - lot of data over 20yrs showing it’s pretty safe. There are some differences like BrainGate uses “Utah” electrodes which sit on the brain rather than go inside the brain.
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Medical diagnosis - Some patients (with things like epilepsy) get their brains recorded like this to find the region of the brain that is malfunctioning. Then sometimes this region is removed and believe it or not it actually helps! Edit: DBS is another option sometimes like the other commenter said but that needs “stimulation” also, not just passive recording.
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Understanding the brain - these recording data can help make sense of the brain. We still don’t understand much of how the brain works so this data can help and maybe help with treatments in the future.
For all of these currently we only have patients (because “healthy” people wouldn’t want metal electrodes in their brain). But neuralink’s promise is to make these electrodes so thin and dense (so that you can record more) while keeping SNR high that it might be possible to put it in healthy people without brain damage. I wouldn’t hold my breath for that, though.
I’m hoping so hard for a brain/computer interface. I have a chronic condition that makes me a walking repetitive stress injury generator. Being able to control a computer with my noggin would be a game changer. I currently use an eye tracker combined with a camera head tracker, plus speech recognition, but it’s not the best. It certainly killed my (non-existent) computer programming career.
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Literally everywhere is for that. BCIs are fair game.
Thanks! So how far away are we from something like this:
- Create a kind of “virtual sense organ” that allows you to learn to “read” text or information through BCI
- A virtual or augmented reality, able to close your eyes and see things that the BCI is feeding you
Both of them can be done shitty-ly now. But to do it with quality that even healthy people will voluntarily get it? That would need several breakthroughs.
We can stimulate some neurons now; to be able to stimulate enough neurons to do either of those in good quality will be hard. Cutting edge stuff can stimulate ~1000 neurons (only monkeys not even humans) but the human optical nerve is more than a million fibers. So we probably will need 3 orders of magnitude improvement and somehow do it in humans safely.
Wow let’s wish for those handful of best case scenarios for sure, and hope it isn’t then adapted for mass consumer use like keeping track of your friends and family, and emails, and assets of various sorts, it might even come with emojis!
If you thought it was hard deleting your Google Photos…
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You probably won’t be worried about scarring after you die of a brain bleed so that might not be the best selling point.
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Yes you are right, they are trying to improve on what exists. My response was more for the “OMG musk is doing a sci-fi” - recording spikes is not really new or hard.
(patent pending)
It’s like the Titan sub all over again except this time homeboys brain arteries implode
So all those animals died for what exactly? A cheaper version of something that already existed?
A cheaper version of something that already existed?
Implying this is useless? Lots of cool stuff exist already but are too expensive to be useful.
Its no excuse for fast and loose research with so much loss of life.
Disabilities shouldn’t bankrupt people no matter the price. Government are rich enough to provide this sort of thing if they want too.
Its no excuse for fast and loose research with so much loss of life.
Totally agree. But your previous comment is implying that there were no gains, not that the costs are too great for the gains, and that’s the part that I’m disputing.
A genius? I figured he was a visionary or just a bloke who, ugh, “aimed for the stars” I guess.
Nope, just some rich Souf Effrican chode.
I disagree with Musk on a lot (especially wanting just cameras for self-driving cars), but, in the tweet he does say “from Neurolink” not “ever”
Oh shit, those logs were always like that too! Short and revealing, I always wondered who would write like that. Well here we are.
Just like how the pandemic showed us how believable zombies can be.
You need to buy Brain Lite subscription to be able to think.
Least purchased subscription of all time.
Who had Doom irl on their 2024 bingo card?
The device allows you to directly post your thoughts on Xitter.
Wasn’t there a South Park episode that predicted exactly this? Didn’t they even call it Shitter?
Idk about South Park but Futurama had an episode about the Eye-Phone that let people post whatever was happening directly in front of them
oh man. the Susan Boyle craze. simpler times
A lot of these types read sci-fi dystopia books and think, “yeah that would be really cool actually.”
“I’ve created the Torment Nexus, from the sci-fi classic ‘Don’t Create the Torment Nexus’”
“Based on a fictional story”
Elon has gone on record saying he’s a huge sci-fi fan, and has mentioned Iain M Banks in particular who writes a lot of posthuman and transhuman characters. He’s literally pulling his ideas directly from fiction.
Nothing wrong with that, being visionary was the domain of writers and artists through all ages, Jules Verne springs to mind as someone who inspired a lot of inventors of modern things. Missing the point completely and finding ways to abuse those visions was the domain of the bourgeoisie, through all the same ages, up to and including today.
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Straight out of Doom 3.
My mind went to Raccoon City
Original Deus Ex game. If I remember right you wake up in an office building and each computer has different emails and messages hinting at what happened.
Ahhh never played those. Thx!
Wanna bet he never gets one himself?
This or autopilot being the reason for his death would be… something.
Notice the guy who says he wants to live on Mars has never once gone up on a SpaceX flight.
Does anyone remember the OCZ NIA (“Neural Impulse Actuator”)?
It was a gaming input device, a simple headband that measured brain activity externally. For beginners, if you thought really hard of “pitch black” or “bright white,” it could measure that and you had your first two thought-controlled buttons. Advanced users could train themselves all the way to several buttons and analog inputs, i.e. control joystick input through their mind.
(just Google/DDG “OCZ NIA” to watch some old review and test videos)
This guy must have played the original Deus Ex.
That game has the best worldbuilding I’ve ever seen. Picking up the story by exploring is very well done. Haven’t gotten far through it, nor played any of the others in the series. But just really well done discoverable storytelling.
This is like the plot to any sci-fi horror or tragedy show ever. Wealthy CEO insists on disregarding the damage the medical implants do and pushes ahead to work on human trials.
What’s next? Zombie Super Soldiers?
