I still won’t buy a phone without a microSD slot.
GET OFF MY LAWN!
What phones even still do? Sonys? Low end Samsungs? Fairphone?
My Motorola does
Moto G Pure from 2021 doesn’t have much but it’s got an SD card slot and a headphone jack.
My Xperia 1 V has one, but it shares the same space with the 2nd sim card slot, which I use.
Right now running a Samsung Galaxy A53.
Also using the A53. It’s certainly not the snappiest phone, but damn it, it holds my entire music library and all the movies I could want. Slapped a 512gb microsd card into this bad boy.
There are 2TB cards now. O_O
Why
Because they want more storage? I honestly don’t understand even asking the question lol
Storage for what though? That’s why I asked. My device storage is 256 and I’ve only used 100, that’s with 700 songs downloaded. I’m curious what you need a ton of storage for.
Pics of yo momma.
I’ve about 2,000 and counting FLAC files on my micro SD card for high quality audio. Many from my CD collection, and a nice amount obtained through other means. I’m already at 90 gigs used in my 256 gig card.
I’ll be getting a new phone at the end of the year, and to transfer all that music (plus my commissioned art collection) all I’d have to do it just pop the card into the new phone.
No wrestling with cloud storage subscriptions or having to worry about my digital stuff being in somebody else’s hands. Just keep it on a tiny card smaller than my fingernail and back it up periodically to my desktop and my laptop. Best part is that I don’t even need any adapters to use headphones, as Motorola phones still have headphone jacks.
There’s people with downloaded movies and shows they like having local access to without any streaming woes, folks who take tons of photos and videos, etc. Having an SD card slot is one of the requirements I need for me to want to use a phone.
“If I dont have a problem that means NOBODY will EVER have that problem”
More like asking for insight to understand.
Why are you so angry?
Cheap, easily expandable expandable memory
What a dumb question
28 net downvotes so far for asking “why”. I think Lemmy is becoming more toxic than Reddit was.
Because the march of time terrifies them.
If demanding better features means you’re old, then fuck being young.
From the average user’s perspective, there is no real need.
Back in the day your 0.2 megapixel camera would take up a lot of space. That’s not the case anymore, especially with cloud storage and being able to just plug your phone into a computer and take the files off it that way.
Huh, buddy, I have some news for you, current cameras have evolved too which means that pics and especially videos take a lot of storage today too… (Not to mention that app resolution has also grown up which means they are heavier too).
If you think that the same proportion of storage is taken between the two. Then I don’t know what to say to you.
That’s actually making a comeback because the EU got pissed.
My phone’s brand new and it has a removable battery, not even in the EU
I think it is because the EU listened to the people. This is what you get when elected representatives are not bankrolled by big business, and are allowed to enact legislation that doesn’t only benefit one side.
The EU has politicians that manage to legislate against the interests of gigantic tech corporations because European tech corporations are far smaller, and thus have much less leverage. Even if the US political system was significantly less corrupt, they’d probably still have issues to legislate against them.
Coz batteries degrade over time, and this way you’re either forced to buy a new phone, or have to pay to have the battery replaced
It’s also 10x easier to achieve IP67 water resistance with the battery sealed off. Having a removable battery would require more engineering contrary to shareholders’ wishes.
This also contributes to the bulk of the device. IIRC, at the time things shifted to sealed designs, Apple and others were competing to make phones as thin, wide, and tall as possible. But that’s not really an excuse; we can probably do better nowadays.
No headphone jack
No memory card slot
No ir blasterWhy are they making it a useless device??
Because we still fucking buy them
My phone is a 2021 model and still has a 3.5mm jack and a memory card slot.
I love that my pixel 4a has a headphone jack. I’m overdue for an upgrade but I know I’m going to lose my fingerprint sensor and jack. Yeah it’s a security risk but this phone still works and performs well. I hate stupid planned obsolescence. I wished tech was more about stability and long life. But I guess that doesn’t make enough billions in revenue.
Those have any long lasting issues? My old 5a had the motherboard go. Trying to find a suitable replacement. Going back a generation wouldn’t be terrible if it’s reliable.
No idea. I got this used about 3 years ago. Never had to search for solutions to problems so I don’t know if they have any common issues.
Given the issues with some of the newer pixels I wished Google would’ve left well enough alone with the fingerprint sensor :)
I’m finding plenty use in my phone without those things.
IR blasters are fine, so few TVs even use them now. Storage, eh, 512 is default these days and I’m only using 25% of that (assuming you meant storage and not memory).
Headphone jacks and replaceable batteries are huge though. I’m still pissed about that.
To sell you more phones. Duh.
OP up in here learning about late-stage capitalism like 😲
They used to have microSD…
Who needs a micro SD when you can pay a subscription cloud service for the rest of your life??? - morons responding to me every time I lament the need for an SD card
Not to mention if your screen gets fucked you can remove the card and have all your photos / movies instantly
Why not both! I love SD but its also pretty handy I can access photos from my PC without needing any further action (I refer mostly to OneDrive right now) SD still rules tho.
This drives me crazy. An iPhone 15 pro max with 256gb of storage is 1199 and the 512gb is 1399.
So $200 for an extra 256gb. Meanwhile a fast, name brand, 1tb micro SD card is about $100.
That’s the Apple business model.
Run out of storage? We have a subscription for that!
Up-selling is the game. Especially if you have something to repair, they will happily quote you close to half of the price of new device so you go “ah, then I might as well buy a new one”.
That Android phones haven’t hesitated to adopt… Sadly.
Not all of them, but yes, sadly it has become a trend.
Well at least on android you have a choice (iirc Fariphone 5 has an SD-card slot)
True, and hopefully most brands adopt this way.
They still do. My 2021 model phone has dual SIM, with one of the slots being enabled for either a SIM card or a SD card.
Many if not most new models don’t have them though
Why do you think my old ass bought a fair phone
Same here
They say stuff like repairability, durability, not using child slavery, yada yada not important
the easily replaceable battery is what really caught my eye and brought me to the yard!
I wouldn’t…
You know what, never mind. Don’t sell past sold lmao
I kinda hate the fact they took of the headphone jack. Conveniently, they started selling their own buds with that launch
I miss that too. The perfect phone doesn’t exist.
Take away user choice, use really bad excuses like water proofing and space saving, and you can be sure consumers will iteratively buy more frequently and spend more for cloud services.
Bye battery Bye bye headphone jack Bye bye user expandable storage.
Capitalism has steered us to this as the preferable product.
It really sucks that they charge so much money for the storage difference. Why are the pricing tiers based on the storage? It’s so strange.
Anyways, I recall having a lot of issues with external storage in the past. Like Android just didn’t integrate that shit properly. It was kinda painful having the phone data and photos in separate places. Don’t remember specifics, I just know I constantly wished they were a single location.
It’s fine now, external storage. Been that way for 5 years or so. Works as any computer does.
I ended up buying a Motorola razr because at least the fucking thing fits in my pocket for once. That’s honestly the biggest tangible benefit I’ve gotten out of a phone purchase in a while.
Each iteration of phone seems more like something I don’t want to even be involved with. Maybe I’ll just buy a light phone next time.
I remember when I could do everything with my phone using a single hand. I never grabbed my phone with two hands. Now I need two hands much more than before.
I don’t know why phablets are a thing. Phones are too big imo.
I had a Motorola g power from 2020? I think? That’s about the right size. I actually wish they could make a usable phone that’s about the size of the bottom half of this one I’m using right now, but it would take some UI innovation which nobody is interested in. It’s funny too because the bigger flagship phones are more expensive, but I’d never pay for that.
I blame Apple. They slowly got rid of features and still sold a shit ton of phones. This is obviously more profitable so other companies followed.
So you’re telling me that capitalism works, and that it’s working as intended.
I agree that this is a result of capitalism. But I would surmise that this is exactly the standard by which capitalism is based. Reduce complexity, reduce operating costs. That generally means that whatever you’re making is going to be generic with no customizability and no ability to be repaired or changed by the end user. Complete vertical integration with optimizations in productivity, materials cost, and other operating expenses, all while charging “as much as the market will bear”
Thank you for defining capitalism.
A lot of anti-user design choices were first introduced by the iPhone. As someone who has owned iPhones since the iPhone 3G, I blame myself.
My Fairphone 3 still has a removable battery. I replaced the battery myself last year. It took me 10 seconds once it arrived.
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All Fairphones, not just the 3, of course.
Computers were not stopping you from running any software you want, until they got small enough for people to forget they are still computers.
Ah yes, the software battery.
Just a similar thing that also could be for this meme, not a comment to the situation with batteries 😆 .
“There removable, see all you need is 7 specialized tools!”
“We cant have users replacing there own batterys what if they puntchure or swallow the battery?”
“Making the battery removable would make the phone more bulky and limits innovation”
-Companys BS reasons
Apple did it. The rest followed.
More like, “what if it cuts our incessant growth in sales?!”
Some still do. I just started working at Walmart, and they give you a Samsung phone to do your job. You use the camera for scanning tags, shelving, check item status, and a bunch of other shit. It’s a modern phone, with USB c, fingerprint sensor in the power button, android 13, stupid hole-punch camera, etc. And when I pulled off the otterbox case they gave me with it, I found that the back pulls off and the battery pops out, like all of my phones used to do back in the day. I assume that’s so they can more easily keep these phones in use, as they can pull out a failing battery and pop a new one in without having to send the phone sent off for servicing.
Likely being provided to a business rather than a consumer means that there’s incentive to make a product with what the purchaser wants.
This is so the spyware can’t be disabled via battery removal
Also so that phones require more frequent replacement. Usually the battery goes first. It doesn’t hold a charge or undervolts and slows down the phone. They want you to buy a new phone every two years.
Usually the screen goes first after a drop. But that is also not easily repaired.
Yeah, but if you don’t drop it, the screen will last many years. Burn in hasn’t been a problem for a while.
On phone from 2013 I started to get burned pixels in around 2020-2021
Integrating the battery saves a small amount of space and weight. That makes the phone very slightly thinner and lighter, which is what most people seem to prefer. Same with not having expandable memory. IMO it’s a bad tradeoff, but I still miss physical keyboards.
The stupid part is that they will buy phone cause it’s 0.1mm thinner and then slap on 3mm phone case on top.
Don’t think anyone has actually bought a phone for the thinness since like, 2016, but also a case isn’t a decision of thinness. The people who use their phones without a case continue to do so because they like the look and feel, and those who use a case for protection will want it regardless of whether the phone is 5mm thicker.
I’ve got an Otterbox Defender on my phone. It’s the only reason my phone is still operational.
I still want a user-replaceable battery though.
I never met anyone that said they wanted a thinner lighter phone.
I’ve met tons of people that would take a half inch thick brick of a phone if it came with an equally big battery that could last days between charges.
Go on Amazon and search for a “outdoors phone”. I have one that is about that size and weighs a lot, but I can go a week between charges easily. I can play games with my headphones for 8 hours straight without needing to charge.
But … The battery is not replaceable.
I want a thinner and lighter phone!
But you haven’t met me.
That’s genuinely one of the things people look for; iPhones are incredibly dense designs, in a very sleek, smooth, light package, and people love them. A very basic phone case and a screen saver adds nearly half the OE thickness of the phone to the package, and look how many people forgo those, even on a phone that’s $1500. If I added that much thickness to a phone that started out at .5" thick, it would end up feeling like I was carrying a brick on my pocket all the time.
I would still take the brick with replaceable battery though.
apple idiots buy whatever apple tells them to because they care more about the artificial status symbol of having the latest apple logo’d bullshit than they care about having a good or decent product.
Yeah, no. I’m an Android user, and have been for about a decade, but Apple makes good products. I think that Apple is overpriced, I don’t like their walled garden, but they’re still good. My wife had an iPhone 8 up until this year, and I’d gone through multiple Samsung and other phones in the same time period that all died due to hardware failures.
I wasnt saying you were, I was saying in general.
Samsungs phones fell off a cliff after the 9, imho. I would never buy another samsung.
Apple artificially destroying batteries to make you buy more phones, sooner, should have been the nail in the coffin of that company if people actually cared about the products and not the artificial status symbol.
You could plug one into the USBC port.
Yeah, but that’s not neatly as portable as the old Crackberries that had slide-out keyboards.
Oh I feel you. I loved them too. The only reason why I had to switch (back when a physical keyboard was still kind of an option) was because I started to type in cyrillic too, and - especially as a newbie who isn’t familiar with the keyboard’s layout - a digital one was much easier to use. But I still hate that feeling of typing on my screen.
Am not convinced there are many who honestly enjoy typing on screen. It’s never great, just passable.
Definitely. I think the only people that like them are the people designing the phones, because they don’t have to worry about smaller/lighter/more durable keyboards.
I had to give up my final phone with a physical keyboard because some of the keys stopped working, and there was no way to get an identical replacement anymore.
I so wanted Blackberry Key3 to come out and was holding out for that one, then they canceled their phone production entirely. Old Blackberry Passport was such a good design for my use case. Sadly outdated software meant I was unable to use it as my daily driver.
