Threads’ roadmap for integrations with the fediverse, aka the network of decentralized apps that includes Twitter/X rival Mastodon and others, has been revealed. A new blog post by Tom Coates, the co-founder of an older decentralized app called Planetary, details the events of a December meeting at Meta’s offices where the Threads team had reached out to members of the fediverse community to get feedback about the Instagram-led project to take on X with a decentralized app that will eventually interoperate with others in the fediverse by way of the ActivityPub protocol.
I mean I get why people running open source, small software projects are going to find it hard not to be convinced just by the fact that they are probably getting their ego stroked super hard by meeting with extremely powerful and rich people… but this is such a stupid idea.
We don’t need meta, they don’t DO anything. What does meta do for the fediverse? Sure you can argue it brings in a ton of users but meta is a for-profit entity and it is never going to truly bring those users into the fediverse. Meta has an absurd amount of money, if they haven’t committed to creating a fediverse like idea in the past what makes everyone think now is different?
Why is a massive corporation with the money to fund 1000 fediverse software projects coming to a bunch of volunteers for help? Seriously, think about it, it really doesn’t make sense unless meta isn’t coming here for help but rather to mine and extract the value here for itself. We have ALREADY built most of the software tools that a too-big-to-function tech company with a lot of programmers could help with anyways, it is far too late in the game for meta to do anything meaningful there besides speed things up a little.
If we accept meta into the fediverse it might seem like we are winning by technically adding a ton of users but for heaven’s sake people need to realize winning doesn’t mean giving all your shit to the other side. The fediverse will become barely any better than the current corporate social network world, so what is the point?
I mean, they are NEVER going to invest in a significant amount of human moderators, that would basically admit the business model of a for-profit social network is fundamentally busted. They will “try” to do it with “””Ai””” and also through underpaid employees in moderation farms in third world countries who are constantly getting traumatized from having to see all the most offensive shit… but it is never going to work.
The question is, why did you come here in the first place? For me, letting meta in violates most of those reasons.
Wait, you mean you don’t like how algorithms and ads have evolved to almost be content at this point. You don’t want a bunch of for-profit ads suggesting you buy things you don’t need? Lol, you’re not in it for the cash grab? :OOOOO WHAT!?!?!?!?!
What does meta do for the fediverse?
By that logic though, what does lemmy.ml do for the fediverse? Or mas.to? Or any specific instance? Nothing, they’re one cog in a pool of federated instances.
And make no mistake, either the fediverse stays so tiny companies ignore it other than what Meta is doing now (to pre-empty EU legislation so they can point at supporting open interoperable formats), or we have to accept commercial enterprises will flood the fedi-space anyways if it takes off.
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Meta could take over the fediverse pretty easily once they’ve been here for a while.
Nothing, they’re one cog in a pool of federated instances.
Yes, Threads will be technically just an instance of a federated network with thousands of instances. But Threads is so fucking big in comparison that most posts will come from there. And at that point, they can impose their algorithms and recommendations on us.
And what if I don’t want to be followed from Meta?
Don’t post on the internet. If you think Meta doesn’t also crawl the web the old school way like Google also does to train AI and such, you’re seriously out of touch with reality.
Well, the good news is that according to this list, your instance already blocks Threads.
Is there any way for me to know if a Kbin instance also blocked Threads?
am block threads and still see
Well, if you’re right, Kbin looks to not have defederated Threads
Maybe you have blocked Threads yourself? I’m not sure if Kbin even supports that (it’s possible on Mastodon and Pixelfed), but I can see Mosseri’s account just fine from my end!
Oh, I tried to say that I can see and even follow this Threads account, so probably Kbin is still federated! Sorry if it wasn’t clear
Oops, you’re perfectly clear - I’m just tired and misread. Yes, Kbin is still federated with Threads indeed. :)
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Brace yourselves, “fascists won’t be able to follow me” posts incoming.
December meeting at Meta’s offices where the Threads team had reached out to members of the fediverse community to get feedback about the Instagram-led project
Is this the one people thought Ruud was a part of?
So I can be on one near-empty platform that can get followed by another near-empty platform?
Yeah basically. Although I don’t know, is Threads that small? Bluesky is the most successful alternative to Twitter from what I see around companies stating where they are posting?
It’s hard to say how many active users are on Threads, but of 160 million registered users there’s probably somewhere between 20 and 50 million (somewhat) active ones. That’s more people than are signed up to Bluesky, as far as I can gather.
A lot of Twitter addicts are going to Bluesky, whereas Threads feeds off the huge user base of Instagram. Bluesky just looks more relevant seen from the Fediverse because it attracts a bunch of dorks.
Twitter is where the people are, and the fascists make up less than half. It’s like living in America: stick to your neighborhood and you’ll be fine, go through the trending hashtags and expect a world of hurt.
