• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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          02 years ago

          I already linked it three times in this thread. Read again the document that you chose to creatively quote.

          • @Thann@lemmy.ml
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            22 years ago

            you linked a shitload of stuff to read, I’m asking for you to pull from that wealth of evidence, a single quote to suggest Ukraine committed ethnic cleansing.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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              02 years ago

              It’s not my fault you’re utterly ignorant on the subject you’re attempting to debate. You ask me for reference, and then moan that it’s too much to read when I provide them for you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

              • @ahtoms@lemmy.ml
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                -12 years ago

                Wow, you actually throw junk research around. If you’re going to use research papers, here’s a hint.

                1. Check the conferences and publication

                2. Check the citations (this guy self-cites a lot, which is typically endemic of someone who is playing the game and is not legitimate)

                3. Check the references (this a big point of failure, especially with this paper)

                4. Check collaborators, he doesn’t collaborate with anyone else on this matter or any other research group (Usually indicates no one is looking over his work or no one wants to be associated with this rubbish)

                5. The author is incredibly pro-russian as noted by his social media activity (so much for an academic attempting to be impartial) (Go check his twitter)

                6. Someone did the work to debunk his previous rubbish that is practically a repeat of his current paper https://uamoderna.com/blogy/martynenko/answer-katchanovski

                As one of his references, he uploads the video himself with that is crudely edited and incredibly questionable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=674&v=QhKALfMFclM&feature=youtu.be

                Half of his references don’t even work anymore or don’t even lead to what he is quoting. The references that he is giving a lot of weight to is usually some facebook post of which there is not enough evidence to suggest where it originates from or if the author is attempt to make fake data (there is already a pattern of dishonesty with this academic, I wouldn’t be surprised). Other references are usually just an article to another media organisation that don’t support his position.

                More to the point, the article boils down to 'I found some clippings on western media outlets that I can use to support my argument, I found some discrepancies and then I therefore have concluded that Maidan was false flag by the west". In which the last part is a stretch by any imagination when the evidence given are incredibly weak and have multiple angles which had not even been considered.

                You are dishonest in just dumping links with no comment. If you read the Jacobin article you would have found in one of the first paragraphs, discussion of opportunism of the right wing extremism you didn’t even mention when I noted that invasion usually spurs extremist movements. You are attempting to throw some ‘research’ paper as some way to garner a little level of legitimacy to your bullshit argument.

                Your game is obviously to post links, get someone to do the work and then either ignore or rebut them point by point.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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                  -22 years ago

                  The only dishonest people here are those who keep pretending that NATO didn’t install a right wing extremist regime in Ukraine in face of all the evidence. If you had a shred of dignity you’d be ashamed of yourself.