• @abbenm@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    Because they didn’t respond to dozens of comments from you on a minute by minute basis? Get a grip. Nobody owes you that.

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      2 years ago

      If they didn’t have evidence that I was wrong, they shouldn’t have engaged with me in the first place

      Edit: Hastily saying things like there are boots on the ground in Kiev without evidence is dangerous, warmongering talk. I won’t allow it.

      • @abbenm@lemmy.ml
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        02 years ago

        Again, you’re delusional if you think anybody owes you minute by minute responses to everything you say. Go for a walk outside.

        • @gun@lemmy.ml
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          -12 years ago

          Minute by minute? It’s been over an hour and I’m still waiting for evidence of boots on the ground in Kiev. And if you look at livestreams of Kiev it looks like a normal day, people going about their business.

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              Ok, I don’t know if you can read well, but, that’s not Kiev. I think the assertion that Russian troops are in Kiev is ridiculous, and that’s the evidence I demanded.

              But no, until further verification, I’m staying undecided. I’ve seen too much misinformation tonight debunked by more sober and patient minds. A lot of the videos floating around on twitter are from 2014 or from other events. Or they mischaracterize the content. A boots on the ground invasion would be disastrous for Russia. And since Putin claimed Russia will not occupy Ukraine, it’s incredibly unlikely. Does Putin really think he can occupy Ukraine and convince the world he hasn’t done this? If they actually invaded all of Ukraine, it would be pointless to deny it officially.

              Rest assured, that is not what is happening tonight. Everyone needs to calm down, wait for the dust to clear and real investigation to be done, and we will know the truth. Stop spreading lies about troops in Kiev, or Russia attacking Moldova, or other crazy bullshit.

              • @pingveno@lemmy.ml
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                32 years ago

                https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60503037

                Still an evolving situation, but this is clearly a boots on the ground invasion, no two ways about it. I think it’s a stretch to say that Putin wants to hold Ukraine himself for any length of time. That would be difficult and Russia simply doesn’t have the ability to hold hostile territory that long.

                • @gun@lemmy.ml
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                  -22 years ago

                  I said Kiev. In the very post you’re responding to!

                  I’m still waiting for evidence of boots on the ground in Kiev

                  • @ahtoms@lemmy.ml
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                    02 years ago

                    It’s a general thread regarding an invasion of Ukraine and honestly dude… if you want it to be that specific to help you feel better calling the invasion fake news, seek help. You really need it

                  • @ArchimedesTesseract@lemmy.ml
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                    -12 years ago

                    In order to prove what? That Ukraine hasn’t been invaded by Russia? That the invasion doesn’t extent into the capital? You sure seem smug about something… but it seems like you’re nit picking in order suck up bandwidth from the truth of the matter.

              • @pingveno@lemmy.ml
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                12 years ago

                With the benefit of some time, here’s a more complete article on what happened. Turns out the source I heard it from originally (Marco Rubio) was quite correct. From this article, it sounds like there likely are at least some Russian troops on the outskirts of Kiev.

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                  -12 years ago

                  Marco Rubio? The republican senator? Are you fucking kidding me?
                  What it looks like from the article is that helicopters came in to destroy military infrastructure and left. We already knew this. I don’t see anything like a permanent occupying force or ground invasion in Kiev

                  • @pingveno@lemmy.ml
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                    22 years ago

                    He sits on the Senate Intelligence Committee. I don’t have a lot of faith in him, which is why I was fairly quick to withdraw the claim when I couldn’t corroborate it. This article does corroborate his claim, though. From the article, quoting a local civilian referring to the base and surrounding areas:

                    “Russian troops are there, a friend of mine lives there, and the Russians have already approached his mother with a machine gun.”

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            Again, nobody owes you minute by minute explanations. And yes, you were demanding those. About 20 minutes had passed from your last reply to the parent commenter to your next comment declaring that they ducked out of the thread, as if failing in a duty to respond to you.

            Now you’re constantly refreshing the page minute by minute, hour by hour, demanding that your confidently incorrect denials of obvious facts be responded to in detail.

            That’s ridiculous and it’s wasting everybody’s time.