• @breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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    2562 years ago

    The country claiming to have the most “freedom” of any country has the highest incarceration rate of any country.

    • @Asafum@lemmy.world
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      962 years ago

      Not so fun fact: the constitution allows for slavery as long as it’s a punishment for a crime.

      Hmmm… Nah, those dots don’t connect at all.

      • @zkikiz@lemmy.ml
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        482 years ago

        And many plantations converted to prisons that are still in operation to this day.

        And many states can’t reduce their prison populations because then they’d lose free labor.

        And some states use prison labor to staff the governor’s mansion with butlers.

          • @_cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world
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            62 years ago

            Man, I fucking love that guy and what he’s been doing. Him and my governor, as well as the governor of Michigan have been having a pissing contest to see who can be the best governor, and we’re all winning.

      • @putoelquelolea@lemmy.ml
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        102 years ago

        It’s even worse. The original US Constitution does not prohibit slavery. It wasn’t until the Thirteenth Amendment was passed seventy years later - after a Civil War tore apart the country - that slavery was abolished. With the express exception of punishment for a crime. No qualifications for the severity of the crime. And that exception gets frequent use to this day in the penal system

        • @fubo@lemmy.world
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          The original US Constitution is explicitly pro-slavery. Not only does it explicitly require non-slaveholding states to return fugitive slaves to their oppressors, but it has multiple mechanisms intended to ensure the dominance of slave states in the federal government.

          The Constitution was never a unified idealist vision of liberty. It was a grungy political compromise between factions that did not agree on what the country should be. These included New England Puritans (religious cultists; but abolitionist), New York Dutch bankers (who wanted the money back they’d loaned to the states), Southern planters (patriarchal rapist tyrants), and Mid-Atlantic Quakers (pacifists willing to hold their noses and make peace with the Puritans and planters).

          • @Brokewood@lemmy.world
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            12 years ago

            Not only does it explicitly require non-slaveholding states to return fugitive slaves to their oppressors

            The Fugitive Slave Law wasn’t part of the Constitution.

            but it has multiple mechanisms intended to ensure the dominance of slave states in the federal government.

            Again, not part of the Constitution. Those were the various compromises that the South kept getting pissy about foreseeing the end of Slavery, so they kept threatening rebellion.

            If anyone tries to tell you the civil war was about states rights, not slavery… These are pretty obviously about slavery. But if they don’t believe that, just let them read the Southern States Declarations of Secession. They say what the civil war’s about in their own words.

    • @qooqie@lemmy.world
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      222 years ago

      This is actually not true any longer, El Salvador now has the highest incarceration rate

    • crowebear
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      192 years ago

      The Star-spangled Banner (where the phrase “Land of the Free” comes from) was written in 1814, 51 years before slavery was abolished. The idea that America is or ever was the land of the free is a total joke.

      • @fubo@lemmy.world
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        62 years ago

        The third verse of “The Star-Spangled Banner” is not typically sung today. It refers to “the hireling and slave” among the foes of the Republic. “The hireling” refers to the mercenaries employed by the British crown in fighting the American revolutionaries. It is unclear whether “slave” is intended to derogate all British subjects as “slaves” of the crown, or if it specifically refers to enslaved Africans who were offered their freedom by the British if they fought against the revolution.

      • @KerPop47@lemmy.ml
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        42 years ago

        That’s what Lincoln said! America’s enemies point to slavery and use it to call the ideals of liberty lies.

    • @ritswd@lemmy.world
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      122 years ago

      … and built its initial wealth on slavery revenue.

      It’s a shame because there are a lot of other great things to be proud about when it comes to the US. I guess when people boast about US freedom, what they mean is democracy, and starting the end of the colonial era, inspiring a tidal wave of democratic uprisings around the world, which is accurate. I wish they didn’t use the word “freedom” for that.

    • @berkeleyblue@lemmy.world
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      52 years ago

      Yeah, of all the words that can follow the legaly declared prohibition of slavery, except might be one of the dumbest you can pick…

    • @mawkishdave@lemmy.world
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      32 years ago

      Many companies are making profits off of this. So many states have for profit prison systems and will get fined of they don’t have enough people in those prisons. That is above the free labor most people have talked about.