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Spectre to Memes@lemmy.ml • 1 year ago

Weapons manufacturers are terrorist organizations

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Weapons manufacturers are terrorist organizations

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Spectre to Memes@lemmy.ml • 1 year ago
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  • @JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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    7•1 year ago

    Defense of Ukraine is a great example of how weapons can be used for good. But definitely not all that these companies do, as Gaza shows.

    • @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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      1•1 year ago

      Russian invasion has been a goddamn goldmine to weapon manufacturers. Not only those selling to Ukraine but also got a lot of European countries to re-arm and restart domestic production.

      • @CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
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        -2•1 year ago

        Yup, who would have though that Russia invading their neighbour suddenly caused the entirety of western Europe to start the largest investments in military and weapons manufacturing since the cold war?

        Looking at the results of this war so far (major expansion of NATO in the North, massively increased military spending in all of NATO, massively increased size of the Ukrainian military), you would almost think Putins goal was something completely different than preventing NATO expansion and “de-militarizing” Ukraine.

        It’s almost like the best way of preventing your neighbours from building huge militaries and joining alliances is by cooperating with them and helping them feel safe, rather than threatening, coercing and bombing them.

        • @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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          It is pretty funny how for us Finns, Putin managed with one move to do what decades of pro-NATO propaganda couldn’t and push us to join.

          • @CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
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            2•1 year ago

            Lol at the people downvoting this like that isn’t exactly what happened: NATO had wanted Finland to join for years, but they didn’t want to join, for fear of provoking Russia. Putin shows the world that appeasement doesn’t work, and Finland joins in a heartbeat.

            • @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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              3•1 year ago

              This is lemmy.ml. It is what it is

              • @CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
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                3•1 year ago

                I actually hadn’t realised that yet, thanks for pointing it out, I thought I was going crazy with the amount of people suddenly supporting Russian invaders

    • @CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
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      0•1 year ago

      It’s sad, but countries like Russia show us very clearly why nations that want peace need to prepare for war.

      I would love to not need to spend a cent on our military, or weapons manufacturing, but the hard reality is very clearly that if we aren’t capable of mass producing weapons, we’ll likely be invaded and killed.

      That’s a major part of the issue Europe is facing now: We’ve scaled down weapons production since the 90’s, and now that we suddenly need millions of artillery shells it takes time to rebuild production capacity.

      Hopefully Russia gets the picture soon, that we’ll keep scaling up until every Russian invader is gone, and we can go back to not spending money on war…

    • 🦄🦄🦄
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      -6•1 year ago

      Jesus the answers to this are unhinged. Didn’t realize this space was quite that far up Putler’s ugly ass.

    • SpectreOP
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      -33•1 year ago

      Ukraine is ruled by a far right government along with Nazis

      • The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
      • Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World
      • NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance
      • The blueprint of regime change operations
      • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part I: The Origins of the OUN 1917-1941
      • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part II: The OUN during World War 2, 1941-1945
      • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part III: 1944-1963 UPA War, Ratlines, and the Assassination of Stepan Bandera
      • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part IV: The Global OUN Network in Exile, 1962-1992
      • BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
      • Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
      • Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
      • Truthout, 2015: The Ukraine Mess That Nuland Made
      • The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
      • The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
      • WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
      • Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
      • The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
      • Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
      • Consortium News, 2022: Evidence of US-Backed Coup in Kiev
      • The Conversation, 2022: Ukraine war follows decades of warnings that NATO expansion into Eastern Europe could provoke Russia
      • @Sidyctism@feddit.de
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        1 year ago

        Ever since Ukraine’s February revolution, the Kremlin has characterised the new leaders in Kiev as a “fascist junta” made up of neo-Nazis and anti-Semites, set on persecuting, if not eradicating, the Russian-speaking population.

        This is demonstrably false. Far-right parties failed to pass a 5% barrier to enter parliament, although if they had banded together, and not split their vote, they would have probably slipped past the threshold.

        Lol your own sources are telling you that you talk BS

        Edit: found another one lol

        The odious Russian media tried to paint Ukraine as a land of Nazis, though that is patently wrong. Ukraine has a thriving Jewish community, and its far-right is still on the fringe. It’s the same in America.

      • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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        4•1 year ago

        What a bunch or random junk.

      • davel [he/him]
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        4•1 year ago

        Reporter: [REDACTED]
        Reason: Russian bot

        Another day, another BlueAnon conspiracy theorist.

        • IT Pro: Cambridge Analytica models were exaggerated and ineffective, [UK Information Commissioner’s Office] claims
        • Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia
        • Jacobin: Democrats and Mainstream Media Were the Real Kremlin Assets
        • Washington Post: FEC fines DNC, Clinton for violating rules in funding Steele dossier
        • Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters
        • Jacobin: It Turns Out Hillary Clinton, Not Russian Bots, Lost the 2016 Election
        • Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork
        • Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big Deal On the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming.
        • MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes
        • Jeff Gerth at Columbia Journalism Review on Russiagate: Editor’s Note | Part one | Part two | Part three | Part four
        • Matt Taibbi: WMD, Part II: CIA “Cooked The Intelligence” To Hide That Russia Favored Clinton, Not Trump In 2016
        • Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away
      • @JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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        3•1 year ago

        Lol no

        • @twei@discuss.tchncs.de
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          7•1 year ago

          You know the source is credible when it’s on wordpress.com

          • davel [he/him]
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            deleted by creator

      • ikarushagen2
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        3•1 year ago

        M8, russkiland tells all of us “ukraine nazi:C” because they fought and freed themself from a form of russian occupation. The moron who was kicked out in 2014 by the ukrainian people recieved a lot of money from russia to be their puppet state, like belarus is right now, but the people didn’t like to be such a country and fought for their freedom. That’s why vatnikstan invaded crimea and the donbas to keep their little puppet at their side, that’s why they kill and torture those who are innocent and just want to live in peace.

      • @Soulg@sh.itjust.works
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        3•1 year ago

        Bro the nazi shit in Ukraine has been proven untrue s very long time ago

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