Kind of a trend, the amount of youtubers who i had loved but their content became generic after gaining popularity is quite a bit, most drastic one being mrwhosetheboss, his uniqueness went down faster than MH27 MH17
Not exactly the question, but there’s no way I can enjoy Internet Historian now that we know he’s a Nazi.
Oh shit. He’s a Nazi? Fuuuuck. I thought he was just a plagiarizer.
Unfortunately not:
https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/18dotzf/internet_historian_is_a_nazi/
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but yeah. Sorry for the reddit link but that’s where a lot of the info is aggregated.
Wow. Someone over there is defending him being a fan of the Proud Boys guy because he claims the Proud Boys aren’t a terrorist group (despite having been declared as such).
He says they’re “very extreme right at worst”, as if there’s some sort of sliding scale on the right wing that eventually gets to “extreme right”, “very extreme right”, “terrorist organization” just naturally…and he isn’t aware they crossed the line years ago.
As if ‘very extreme right’ (not a thing, they’re nazis. The word is nazis) isn’t like. Bad. Like apparently that’s a respectable position for the simple idea that it is on a ‘scale’?
And yes, fully agree. Even if there was a ‘scale’ (this is debateable) they crossed that line waaaaaaay long ago. Like 2016, maybe even before.
Well fuck
Oh wow did not know this. What a d*ckbag
I’ve never heard of this guy until reading your comment, and I’m glad I never consumed any of his content.
Well fuck.
This sucks. I really liked his content.
I’m right there with ya, bud.
His videos never really clicked on me
Linus Tech Tips.
They were pretty good in the beginning but the drive to create more and more output diminished the quality of the individual vids. Hence, the latest controversy.
It’s easy to dunk on LTT but they came back pretty strong after the controversy. It seems like marketing got the shaft and the engineers are way more free to spend time on their stuff.
LTT is one of the only ones that cuts the over spec PSU and Mobo bullshit when doing PC builds, when others are wasting all the budget on non gaming stuff.
Linus is VERY technically informed these days.
over spec PSU
I’ve been building “over spec” since RTX 20XX came out because they keep tripping even platinum PSUs from good brands. I have seen it with 30XX and 40XX GPUs too. This doesn’t usually show up in test loads because they have a consistent load, it’s the intermittent gaming loads that cause transient spikes. Some new PSUs are built to take the spikes but many are not.
I’ll never not overspend on a PSU. I’ve always looked at it as: every time I turn on my PC there’s a chance it’ll explode. Why increase that chance to save $100?
More expensive does not mean safer, it can be quite the opposite.
Doesn’t help that places like the ltt tier list had PSUs like the entire Evga B3 series which several exploded when tested by tomshardware as BETTER than the N1 series which were crap according to it when that PSU passed jonnygurus testing without issues. Why you wonder? Well because the N1 is an older topology lol.
I’ve noticed that now PSU reviews have turned into sort of a audiophile nonsense competition where people are only interested in better numbers without knowing what they actually mean and when they matter, last time I watched gamer nexus I cringed very badly when someone in their team mentioned in a vid that a low power factor could cause you stability issues wtf. (that is like saying that a high input lag will cause your pc to crash).
I guess I should clarify what I meant, since you’re the second person to point this out to me (no fault to you, I wasn’t clear).
I’ll always pay for high quality in a PSU, even for non-critical systems. My main PC, home server, and shit box emulator machine on integrated graphics app run the same PSU, only the main PC is a higher wattage.
An old friend bought an RGB PSU in like 2018 despite my best advice. I wonder how it’s holding up… bought the first of my three PSUs two years prior to that and still pushing electrons like new
That’s great but you are not decreasing the chance of the PSU exploding by spending more on it.
You’re right, the PSU doesn’t care how much money I spent on it.
But a shitty $50 no name PSU is probably gonna blow up before the $150 unit from a solid company with a well established history of quality parts
I’m not saying more expensive PSUs are better, I’m saying that better PSUs tend to be more expensive. Obviously that exploding PSU from a few years ago isn’t better than a cheaper one simply because it cost more.
Never thought “I buy good stuff i have confidence won’t blow up” would be such a controversial take
Linus Tech Tips …
Click baity as heck and most of the content are just ads or have misleading information.
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Negative information is still information. Knowing something isn’t worth the time/money can still be helpful.
Disclaimer: didn’t watch the video in question
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After watching the video, I thought it was pretty solid. Only 1 of the 4 was mostly bad, the rest just had sharp edges that the viewer needed to be comfortable with before launching in.
I’m not saying Linus isn’t guilty of clickbait and junk content to some degree, but this one felt good to me :)
I like this one too and generally like the videos with Alex. Just because something doesn’t make practical sense to do doesn’t mean it’s not interesting.
and theft, and lies.
don’t forget the theft and lies.
And wasn’t there someone who was involved there who later made claims of sexual harassment/discrimination?
I was never a big follower but that was enough to get me to banish the channel from my homepage.
I just got tired. Stopped enjoying the videos as much, and when the last big controversy happened, I realized I only watched them out of habit and not for entertainment or even the info they gave out (if it could even be trusted).
Nowadays if I need straight data or a good review I go to Gamers Nexus. Dont need a forced meme every other minute to enjoy what could be a well constructed and informative video.
That’s what happens when you base your entire business model coming up with new video ideas to make money.
Agreed. They are supposedly working to fix the misleading info and quality control, but the damage has been done for me. I stopped watching them a long time ago
I’ve watched their content, practically from the inception of Linus’ own channel. It used to be a really nice outlet for info, because he’d open up products, and actually show useful details during an unboxing. Over the years, I’ve unsubbed from all of their channels, minus the main one, but when the drama dropped, that was the last drop for me. I totally get entertainment, but not when it’s fueled by harassment, gross negligence, drama, and “hot takes about the hard R”. Everything is scripted and corporate. It doesn’t feel enjoyable anymore
non-ad videos are still decent-ish… definitely not as fun tho…
Sabine Hossenfelder, used to love her takes on physics until she fell in the usual expert’s trap of believing she can talk equally usefully about things OUTSIDE her expertise.
First trans care, which missed a few important nuances. Then autism, which had a decades-old perspective and was at best “not informative”.
Then hoo boy Capitalism where she made a huge tangled MESS confusing and conflating markets with monetary systems and credit, all apparently based off half-remembered textbooks from 1950 using long-disproven historical claims.
A lot of criticism was sent her way. None was acknowledged, or apparently taken to heart. Repeatedly.
From skillfully presenting physics with a “explain it like I’m 5” style, she’s now spouting any trending topic in a “explained by a 5 year old” style.
This was such a disappointment, I really liked her explanations of quantum physics.
This, JFC so much this. The trans care thing was a serious blow to my interest in her videos. That capitalism BS. That killed it dead. Didn’t finish that video, haven’t watched since. Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
To be fair, I think her reputation might still be salvageable. But it would take sincere apologies, earnest corrections, and getting back in her ”lane” of experience. As a physicist she’s fine, but not so much as a physician or politician.
Was that before the weekly call from Elon? Idk when I checked out?
After
Sounds like something i would like (and can use) will probably check some of her older vidoes
On that topic, Anton Petrov is legit. Daily videos on math, physics, and cosmology. Less frequent but better produced, Sixty Symbols is one of Brady Haran’s channels at University of Nottingham.
She’s always been a weird nerdy lady, but endearing. Her videos were never professional, a bit tacky, but very informative. But I too dropped her channel because she started talking about nonsense she had no business giving opinions about.
Cinema Sins. Used to be 5 minute videos pointing out continuity errors or over-use of something (Iron Man 2 Bird Bonus Round) but then bloated into 20 minutes of nit picky bull crap.
There are now Cinema Sins Sins videos, which sometimes make more sense than the actual Cinema Sins video they are commenting on.
Hahahahahahaha that’s great. I have to see this.
EWWCS, Everything Wrong With Cinema Sins. That should get you the channel. I’d link, but I seriously don’t know how to do that with NewPipe
Reject Cinema Sins, embrace Cinema Wins.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELEAsGoP-5I](Sustaining Stupidity - Why CinemaSins is Terrible)
Veritasium. After he put that uncritical commercial for the self driving car company on his feed I couldn’t take any of his content seriously anymore.
It was his video on IQ tests that set off alarm bells for me.
IQ tests are not some method of determining intelligence they are very much linked to relative education/socioeconomic standing. His complete lack of criticism and neutral/positive support of IQ tests make me think he likes the result of his score…
I stopped watching after the “speed of electricity in a wire” video. When I realised a video about something I knew about was bollocks, it made me question every other video that taught me about something I didn’t know.
Even if that had been a one off, how would I know? The trust is gone.What was wrong with that one?
Without getting into it too deeply the way he conflates induction and conductivity just to set up some kind of gotcha.
IIRC, it was way too confusing to be useful as an educational video
I’ll purposely seek out videos covering topics I’m (more) familiar with, from unfamiliar content creators that I might be interested in watching more of. It helps me gauge their accuracy, confidence, and ability to simplify without losing the underlying reasoning.
some recent ones have been interesting, but yeah that ad really was a scummy move
Yeah, the new SAT video was great and i still can’t for the life of me figure how those people managed to think about the problem and realize the options were wrong, really goes to show how intelligent people are always doing things with a very alert mind, even if the problem is very easy
Why was it bad
Making a 20 minute advertisement rife with misinformation and having one single statement saying the video is sponsored is bad
“Oh and by the way, this is a sponsored video 🤷” and then spends half an hour sucking a company’s dick for money
That and the shampoo ad killed my interest in the channel, and ever since then I’m extremely wary of everyone. Kurzgesagt is also up there, for producing propaganda for a billionaire’s charity.
God kurzgesagt really bothers me for their “technology will save us” ideology. I get bad vibes.
Guys, all we have to do is trust the technology that Bill Gates stands to profit from! Never mind the fact that Bill Gates funds my videos, just trust him, guys! The future might look bleak, but you don’t have to take any action! Ol’ Billy already is! Just trust him!!
Yeah, it’s really egregious. I don’t really like their videos because they all feel kind of biased like that… and just a lot of editorializing. To be clear, I’m not above technology getting us out of a jam, but I really don’t think we should expect it… We should really plan with what we know is possible.
what’s wrong with Kurzgesagt?
Essentially, they’re funded by billionaires, and their videos show it. Here’s a couple videos that go into it:
Their videos about the climate for the last few years essentially boil down to “shit sucks, everything is bad, a lot of people are going to die. But wait, here’s an interesting new technology that could save the planet! All we have to do is trust capitalism to make this technology happen, and we’ll be saved!”
I’m of the opinion that we should be brutally fucking honest about the climate, and that copium like this only makes people complacent. If we stopped pumping out greenhouse gases right now, we wouldn’t avoid 3° of warming. Hundreds of millions of people are going to die as a direct result of anthropogenic climate change, and there is nothing we can do about that. If we get complacent, that number will be in the multiple billions. Cute cartoon birds turning into skeletons does not reflect the horror of climate change.
The Kurzgesagt climate videos explicitly encourage political action to combat climate change. I think they even encourage it as the most important thing an individual can do. They don’t push ‘let capitalism solve everything’ , they push ‘vote in green candidates + regulation’.
I saw one of those videos taking them down for receiving Bill Gates money and frankly I think it’s a pretty empty hitpiece.
Don’t get me wrong, the Gate’s foundation does push this ‘never question the market’ ideology, and any organisation that relies on their funding deserves to be scrutinized to hell and back. But Kurzgesagt does not push this ideology.
’ The problem with Kurzgesagt’ never found any factual issues with their content, AND the broad message of their videos is ’ lobby the government for regulation + here’s the technology’ . If Gate’s Foundation money has caused them to compromise their values, it’s not done a good job of it.
Funding is not the same as editorial control, and the amount recieved from the gates foundation is not even a large portion of their income, so it’s not like they have much leverage.
Gate’s Foundation and similar spend money literally everywhere, so I worry about people writing good orgs off so quickly.
here’s a thorough analysis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCuy1DaQzWI
TL;DW: they assume technology will magically “fix” the climate crisis and no big changes to society or the economy are necessary. thus perpetuating and worsening the climate crisis by pretty much telling people “it’s gonna be fiiiiine”…when it really won’t be “fine”.
edit: note, that most of their content is fine, just the climate “solutions” and stuff are…so optimistic as to be misleading. their physics and futurology stuff is fine. also way oversimplified in many cases, but fine.
Same, never trust any of his videos now so I just don’t bother watching.
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Oh, what? I don’t remember that one. Is it this one? https://youtu.be/yjztvddhZmI
I used to watch iilluminaughtii several years ago, probably because I’ve been grabbing popcorn and enjoying watching someone dunking on multi-level marketing since, uh, 90s at least. Then I watched some video that was about some topic that I was kind of in middle of a deep dive, too (I can’t remember which exactly. Elan School, probably?). And the video was bland as hell. And then I was like “yeah, most of these other videos are kind of forgettable shallow pap too”.
…and this year we found out about the whole landlordy corporate town fancier backstabby financial abuser helicopter-CEO situation. And the content mill situation. And the plagiarism thing. Can’t forget the plagiarism thing. …I was like, “oh this all just makes sense now.”
Illuminaughtii was getting pushed into my feed so hard right before everything went down that I’ve started to cast side-eye on anyone that the algorithm starts to push hard.
On the plus side, I found Cruel World Happy Mind because of all the awful stuff Illuminaughtii did to her.
her podcast (which is just the audio of her videos) keeps getting pushed to my Spotify feed. I don’t even use Spotify for podcasts nor I even listened to her at all on said platform. She must be spending a pretty penny in that algorithm push
This sounds like a ready made HBO special
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AvE. Was cool until pandemic happened, then got extra “conservative”. Couldn’t watch anymore.
Yea that fucking sucked, used to absolutely love his boltr videos but then he went political 🤦
Shiiiit i remember. His videos were genuinely fun to watch. It started to go down a bit when he kept ranting about plastic pipes, like it’s some wort of conspiracy and copper was the best thing ever. Then covid hit and ooooh boy what an absolute wanker.
Yeah, basically unsubbed from AvE over this too.
I can’t remember who this was, but there was another engineering YouTuber who, during the pandemic, basically twittered about being frustrated with the lockdowns from business perspective and whingled about being scared talking about his political beliefs because apparently being anything anything right of a model leftist is a crucifiable offence in the bird site, according to him. And how the horse paste actually works. I was like “…oh shit, maybe this dude is a magahatter?”
This one made me really sad.
I loved his videos. I learned a lot from the disassembly videos.
Then he went all Covid denier as soon as the pandemic hit. I couldn’t watch it anymore
I could kind of ignore it for a while but then he started dabbling in 9/11 trutherism and I had to nope out. At that point the paranoia and politics were infecting and degrading the actual meat of the content.
I thought AvE was a smart guy who got it.
Then he started praising the trucker convoy for being heroes and it shocked the fuck out of me. It honestly bummed me out.
I told my Dad that I couldn’t watch AvE anymore and he said, “Well his content has been shit lately anyway.”
VSauce. They used to be THE shit years and years ago. Their content now has been… Rather sparce and uninteresting.
I don’t mind content that takes a long time. Ahoy and Lemmino are great. But VSauce just became… Feeling like a waste of time.
Seems like they never recovered after the whole YouTube Red exclusive stuff they did. I was glad they came back, but you’re right, it just doesn’t hit the same.
Their Red exclusive show was such a disappointment, I stopped following them after that
Is that the one where we got to watch his Ayahuasca trip cause of so I almost say it was worth it just for that.
I think Vsauce is a lot more grifty than he looks. If you look at the really early videos they were very different and he changed his content wildly in order to find something that makes the most money with the least work. The science education happened to be profitable but as the Meta started favouring more than 10+ min and science vids became mini documentaries he just dropped off and started reviewing science toys and do compilation videos. Right now he is doing a lot of shorts because they are being pushed by the algorithm.
I started watching VSauce well over 10 years ago, so I’ve experienced how his content changed first-hand. I feel VSauce dropped off when Michael became an internet meme, when VSauce made it “big”. They got their own studio, their own merch box, and I thought this was going to be an upgrade to the content between VSauce 1, 2 and 3. But then Michael made that YouTube Red series and that was basically a brick wall.
Only Jake Roper still made some good videos for some time, but that stopped eventually too. Mindblow stopped, Build It, Draw It, Play It stopped. Instead of seeing anything that would justify having a studio and a team to work with we basically got, like you said, Michael reviewing toys from their merch box, and Kevin doing some math philosophy once in a while.
Mindblow is technically back but… it lacks any energy or soul that the original Mindblow had. It’s sad…
His side gigs are super grifty. Curiosity box was a straight scam. Two months delayed and full of shifty products that break or fall apart trying to assemble them.
Platform has grown and they just arnt the only game in town.
Vsauce2 is still good and mindblown just recently came back, Kevin basically said on his podcast that the mindblown videos just take too much time to research for something that’s presented extremely fast and short, since he’s not a tabloid making wildly innacurate reporting on science papers.
I just learned that they have Vsauce 2, 3 and 4 but it’s not with Michael, so not as good.
Joshua Weissman. He started out super chill, most of his recipes were pretty approachable, the editing wasn’t over the top, the b-roll stuff at the end was tasteful.
Now it’s like he’s catering to a whole different crowd. The editing is over the top and jammed with memes, he’s more idk, psychotic isn’t quite the right word, but it’s way less chill, he’s constantly saying stuff like “if you don’t use XYZ ingredient then what are you even making this recipe for?”, his recipes are more over the top, and he has a much more elitist opinion of himself and his food. The change happened so quickly too, it was kind of shocking.
Food wishes is the GOAT of cooking channels. The only thing thats changed about his format is video and audio quality has improved.
The fact that he still puts in a rhyming joke in every video makes me smile
For actual cooking stuff, I prefer Adam Ragusea. He dives more into the history and molecular gastronomy side of things, to explain how a dish came to be and why it works. Not quite as sciencey as Alton Brown, but I definitely see the influences. And for actual historical food stuff, you may want to check out Tasting History. He’s a creator who does deep dives into historical dishes, then tries to recreate them.
Both interesting in their own ways, but Adam’s stuff has helped be become a better cook simply by understanding the why, rather than the how. Because if you know why something works, (rather than simply knowing how to do it) you’ll be able to translate that to other situations where it will work, and be able to avoid/work around situations where it won’t. It took me from “following recipes” to “making my own recipes” if that makes sense.
Already subbed to both of those channels lol. I also like J. Kenji Lopez Alt and Brian Lagerstrom for similar reasons - their videos are more about how to cook than just following a particular recipe.
I remember when he hit 100k followers. Then 200k. Then a million. He has abandoned those of us who helped build the foundation of his success.
I miss chill fermentation fridays.
I used to have a couple of his videos bookmarked. Making pizza or some kind of bread dough, can’t remember but I was using them all the time. Once finished it would autoplay another one of his videos and I agree they got worse and worse. Louder and faster and louder, they would usually make me rush to hit pause with doughy fingers.
CinemaSins. They were always kind of bottom-of-the-barrel, but their early videos pretty much just amounted to narrating the IMDB trivia pages so it was harmless. I went back and checked in on their channel for the first time in 8+ years and holy shit they’ve gotten bad. Videos running a quarter the length of the movie they’re doing with word-salad voice over that doesn’t even make sense.
Also: “[female actor] isn’t 18 in this scene” was just as fucked up in 2012 as it is in 2023.
I agree, I don’t think that CinemaSins was ever really good, but it definitely got worse over time. His content has been criticized to death and there are some good commentary videos covering the issues with his channel. I will plug CinemaWins as a pretty good “counter” channel. I don’t watch it because I’m not really into that kind of content these days, but the videos that I have seen are worthwhile if you’re looking to fill a similar hole.
Bon Appétit after the issues at their workplace were raised, they all make some decent content outside the BA brand though. Nice to see Sohla doing so much content too since she wasn’t treated the best at BA.
I miss gourmet makes. Claire Saffitz solving industrial food issues on a small scale was fascinating and unique. Her new stuff, dessert person, is nice, but it’s standard cooking show fare, not solving weird industrial hacks.
There was a special charm in watching her misery haha
She’s been putting out some great cook books, Dessert Person is excellent. I always liked her and BA for highlighting process of making food and how important indicators are vs simply measurements. What does “cream the butter and sugar” actually look like and why is it important etc.
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Brad’s definitely the kind of extrovert host who takes other interesting professionals and lifts the energy up to very entertaining affect, I used to watch everything BA put out, they were a great channel.
Sinfest. Used to be a charming and funny daily webcomic about an eclectic cast of colorful characters getting into surreal and philosophical situations. Then one day in 2011 it suddenly swerved hard into radical feminism. I’m not anti-feminist myself, but the comic became obsessed with it – literally every strip was related to The Patriarchy in some way and it became extremely preachy and boring.
I checked out for the better part of a decade, and when I randomly revisited a couple years ago it turned out that the author had transited the TERF-to-fascist pipeline and turned into an extreme-right antivax conspiratorial fascist loon, of the “teachers are secret pedos” and “the war in Ukraine is a hoax” variety. Super sad to see.
Oh no. I used to look forward to sinfest every day.
That sucks! I also dropped off when it was The Patriarchy all the time. So sad to see where it ended up.
Sinfest
Now there’s a name I haven’t heard in 20 years. Not sure it qualifies for “downhill very quickly”
On a similar note, Questionable Content needs to just stop already if it hasn’t. That turd’s been circling for years and years, proving everyone wrong every time they insist it couldn’t possibly get any worse.
A lot of tech YouTubers (such as Mr whose the boss). Just a hype man reading specs and hyping up shit.
Just look at him speaking about the Huawei Mate 60 pro. What a load of bullshit.
At least we’ve still got Paul and
NGGN giving honest takesSorry posted when I was sleepy
GN?
Probably means Gamers Nexus, a pretty solid PC build/review channel that does some great deep dives. Steve is sometimes jokingly referred to as Tech Jesus, but he’s pretty respected in the PC building community.
GN oops, early morning typo
Who?
So far I think I can trust MrMobile to give an honest opinion. When it comes to his channel its not just specs and numbers but real experiences. Quite different from the myriads of other tech channels on YT today.
I agree but something with Mr Mobile has been off for me lately. Less enjoyable and it feels a bit like unintentional shilling or “hey this is cool if you force an interest.” Maybe it’s me and I’m just tired of the genre.
Yeah like the guy is some kind of an actor, right? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Pretty much every car repair channel starts off good, then quickly changes to fixing exotic cars that nobody can afford.
Scotty has the most clickbait titles. “If you have a car you will REGRET this ONE SIMPLE TRICK and DESTROY YOUR ENGINE” (video is about winter octane stabilizers or something completely mundane)
Man he has truly become unwatchable as of late, it sucks. That said a lot of other car/hardware channels have lost the plot like AvE
Yeah they sort of follow the same trajectory. I do like DeMuro still but it really depends on the car he’s reviewing for how interested I am. Leno is also decent and I prefer his car content to anything he did on late night or comedy-wise. He has that professionalism as a presenter and has so much money that he can just buy like a Merlin engine or have anything he wants to professionally restored. Really cool to see some of that stuff.
Doug has always been iffy for me. I think it’s his voice that grates me. If I watch one video, my feed gets loaded up.
I’m not a huge fan of his voice and all that but he’s super enthusiastic and if the car is genuinely interesting it’s fun.
Go check out Aging Wheels if you don’t mind old and or silly cars
Check out Garbage Time. It’s a channel about an Aussie and his mechanic buddy repairing old, shitty cars. Many of the cars are Australian specific too.
Fuck yeaaaaah Garbage Time!
Donut Media during the 350z hi car/low car thing was really good, but feels like they are just repeating the same content over and over now without getting much useful/interesting info now.
Chris Fix?
Hoovie’s Garage, Tavarish, Samcrac the list goes on
Matt Armstrong. Lovely channel, but you’re right.
Yeah, people with car questions are always pointed to Chris by me.
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