Apologies for the low resolution. It was a mobile ad and all I could get was a screenshot.
You cannot tell me that dude (duddette?) doesn’t have an eating disorder. That looks sickly and horrible.
Meh, I dated a girl thinner than that. People were always making comments like yours, but to her face.
She had one barely functioning kidney. Dumped her because she was foul tempered, but I heard she got a transplant!
But yes, eating disorder is a fair guess for a model like that.
I used to look like that from ages 15 to 30. I was eating 6000 calories a day to maintain my weight. I don’t know about that dude (dude is gender neutral), but it is possible they are struggling to not lose weight. Unlikely, but possible.
Someone who eats 6000 calories a day cannot look like this. It is not scientifically possible. That energy has to go somewhere and unless you’re sprinting continuously for hours on end it’s just not happening.
People have different metabolism rates, especially in younger ages.
Yet I did. 135 pounds and 6’2” for 15 years. You are assuming that everyone absorbs nutrition equally or that people burn at the same rate. I was a human space heater and, because my blood pressure was too low to get a driver’s license, I was walking up to 7 miles a day. But that exercise probably didn’t make a dent in anything.
I’m not here to say what your experiences are. I just have some numbers. The total daily energy expenditure of the average male of that weight and height aged 18-30 who does intense exercise daily is around 3300 calories a day and this is on the high range which means if one were to consume 6000 calories a day and use 3300, they would still have 2700 calories still in their body. A pound of fat is about 3500 calories therefore at that rate you would gain approximately 23 pounds a month. I’m not arguing. Just saying the numbers don’t add up.
“average” is doing a lot of lifting there. And, again you are assuming normal absorption of calories. The numbers don’t add up because you aren’t considering all the variables. What’s the calorie need differential between an ectomorph and an endomorph? What role does hormone and thyroid play?
Yes, you are arguing. You might be using math but you are saying I wasn’t me.
What’s the calorie need differential between an ectomorph and an endomorph?
None. Somatotypes are a pseudoscience and have been completely debunked.
What role does hormone and thyroid play?
The difference between the “fastest” and “slowest” metabolism in healthy people of the same weight is at most 300kcal per day, which is significant, but couldn’t account for a missing ~3k surplus per day
There are however several conditions which cause the body to simply not to process food (malabsorption is the term to look up), which is what must have been happening to you.
It’s very common for people to misestimate their calories by massive amounts, which is why people are expressing doubts, but what you’re describing is a real thing that happens
The variables don’t matter because even if they were included, they wouldn’t make up for the lost calories. Oh well. It’s not important.
Saying variables don’t matter is cheating at math and taking a very simplified view of metabolism of food intake. It was very important to me when I was counting every calorie and tried to lose any weight because 5 lb could send me to the hospital.
My brothers were swimmers and skinny and small (and really fast, won national titles) and that combination of young, male, and active does create a black hole of metabolism. I also had a friend who was 6’6" and 140lb but healthy too, poet not athlete. He ate, it’s just hard to eat enough to fund that much height.
The model though, that’s an aesthetic choice not an aspirational body type. Androgynous and otherworldly is what I think they are going for. It’s not mainstream attractive, certainly.
Tailoring clothes to a body is much easier when it’s 2D.
Moisturize me!
It’s the bitchy trampoline!
I had just rewatched this last night!
They’re just walking hangers which are sometimes decorated.
So, where does body positivity start and stop? It seems silly to say one extreme is acceptable but the other isn’t.
Now, I worry body positivity, in general, encourages people to ignore the need to make life style changes for their own personal health, but also, maybe, if it’s not my body, it’s none of my fucking business.
if it’s not my body, it’s none of my fucking business.
Please don’t be obtuse. When it gets put into an ad campaign aimed at me and the 99.9% of other people where looking like would be extremely bad for our own personal health, it becomes our business.
Look at it another way, a year ago would you have said to an antivaxxer / antimasker “who am I to judge”? The effects here are much more subtle and take more time, but the same logic applies, and the results of inaction are no less insidious.
So sure, all right, maybe a single person might be all right without a vaccine/without a mask/eating only 30 calories a day, but that is not something that should be encouraged. And the dumbass republicans/marketers who spread this behavior should be called out and shamed.
Obesity is also extremely bad for our own personal health so we should stop seeing obese people in ads too right?
How many ads actually have obese people in them? I don’t such any online but I haven’t had stuff like broadcast cable for ages. Is it a thing?
It’s quite common because companies want to market to people by seeming relatable and wouldn’t you know it, for a lot of people being overweight is relatable so you see it a lot more in advertising now.
It’s definitely become a thing within the past decade, especially with products/ads directed more towards women. Remember that obese is not “Jabba the Hutt” levels of fat, and someone who looks like this is far past obese at 5’4" (1.61m) and 200lbs (90kg). Then, you have companies like Dove ( with ads like their “Body Positive Trailer” showing characters that are well past Class III obesity. That’s an extreme example, but it’s become quite common overall to show severely overweight people as “normal”
Companies have realized that people are getting fatter and fatter globally, so like any good capitalists they’re going to take advantage of it. It shouldn’t come as any surprise that Dove is owned by Unilever, who is also the world’s largest producer of ice cream, and suddenly their push for “body positivity” makes a bit more sense.
Now, before people go and attack me, I think that there have been many positive changes in how people are being more realistically portrayed in media and appreciate the push for more realistic body standards. Shaming people for looking “different” is not okay, and that includes being overweight.
However, what’s not okay in my mind is how quickly it’s become “being severely overweight is totally okay if you #slay queen, yaaaas”. I’ve noticed a growing trend of these types of ads, generally portraying black/PoC women (who are already statistically far more likely to become obese) who are hundreds of pounds overweight as doing all kinds of “fitness” and/or “boss babe” kinds of activities, which seems like they are trying to convince the broader audience that it’s totally okay to be 200-300lbs overweight because this obese black girl was shown wearing athletic wear.
Yeah I go to target and the mall and etc and see obese (women in particular) being used to advertise.
Yes? I don’t know what kind of gotcha you thought you had but it didn’t work out too well.
I’ve encountered lots of people in real life and the Internet who think it’s perfectly acceptable to be obese(health at every size, etc), there’s a whole anti diet campaign and everything. I’m glad you personally don’t feel that way, I agree with you the extremes in either direction are unhealthy. But let’s not pretend like that is some unheard of viewpoint.
Took the words right out of my mouth. I will never say a single unkind word to an obese person, I was there too once and know how hard it is, but lets not pretend it’s healthy to be that way either.
I completely agree. I would never be mean to anyone for their size because that’s not kind. I am overweight, I was obese. I’ve been working on listing weight. I’ve been there. I love food. There is this stigma that saying that being fat is bad means you’re attacking someone. It’s simply the truth, we have the data. It’s not healthy. We know this, science knows this.
The ad isn’t aimed at you. It isn’t even aimed at customers. It is aimed upwards.
Is there a human being on the planet earth who can afford a Prada bag and has never heard of that brand? Seriously, 8 billion members of humanity and I will put down money right now that there is literally not a single one who has the money and has never heard of the brand.
The ad exists in the form it exists because someone thought it would impress their manager who in turn was trying to impress their manager and so on. All the way up to some heiress who sits on the board.
Look right now at Walmart or Target’s or Amazons website for clothing. Do you see the models? They look like normal people and they are smiling. Those retailers are trying to get money from you. Because those companies are sane normal businesses that want your cash and nothing more. They impress the higher ups by how much of your cash they can get.
Health. Hurts a bit knowing all those teen girls out there feel like shit because of some tiny “imperfection”. Hurts a bit that we don’t tell people whose weight is not what medical science is recommending to adjust it.
I am a fat guy, I am doing well on my diet. My doctor was honest, if I don’t lose the weight she is going to have to start talking about medications.
The ad aside, I just don’t understand the appeal of paying $3,000 for a handbag when a $20 handbag will can do just the same thing. The only thing I can think of is people think they look cool or rich or better if they have a Prada handbag, but frankly, who gives a shit what kind of bag someone has? And second of all, if I saw you with one I wouldn’t think you are cool at all. I would think you’re the dumbest person alive.
While it’s true that you hit a point of diminishing returns, there’s a sharp divide between, say, a $200 bag and a $20 bag. Technically a plastic shopping bag will serve the same purpose as a purse, but it’s likely to break in less than a day. A $20 bag might last a few months of daily use if you’re careful, but it’s going to have cheap/non-durable materials, have cheap findings, and be poorly made. At $200, the odds are pretty high that it’s going to be well made, use solid materials that will last, and have fittings that aren’t going to corrode, fall off, or break in a few months.
I have a designer wallet that I’ve used every day for over 15 years, and while it looks beat up, it’s still fully intact. I averaged about one every 3-4 years before I got this one.
See also: Cap’n Vimes boots theory of socioeconomic unfairness.
Doesn’t pretty much every wallet survive for ever. As long as it’s leather or something else durable.
Leather comes in varying qualities. Thread can break if the wrong thread is used. Snaps can fall off if they aren’t set correctly, and they can corrode if they’re plated badly.
My leather wallet has had random bits of recycled cardboard used to add stiffness falling out of it for a while now. It still functions, but I’m pretty sure some of the pockets are now more accurately tunnels to other pockets.
I got obsessed with designer replicas - I didn’t buy many but I loved looking at comparisons on repladies… and the cheaper dupes were often much better made and quality controlled than the authentics. We’re still talking a few hundred for the bag but the genuine ones can be 10 or even 100 times the price. I know this isn’t what you were talking about btw. It’s definitely better to spend a bit more on a bag… or anything, for quality!
To be fair I’ve got a wallet from AliExpress that still works fine after 5 years. Unfortunately quality and price are not the same thing. Sometimes expensive stuff is made as cheaply as possible. As a consumer it’s not always that easy to know when you are fooled.
Also it’s not really true anymore that a good brand is still good. Lots of good brands decided to produce inferior products for higher profits. I think it’s probably because a brand is bought by some investment firm that wants to maximize profits.
Because they get to show off. Other people see it and they feel bad for not having access to the resources required to do this. And you know what? All of us do this shit in some way or another. Fancy cars, vanity muscles that don’t actually help you, talent in things that have no real practical value, fancy collections, big house. All of us are performing, trying to tell the world “I am so amazing I can afford this waste”. And if we have nothing to brag about we can always brag about our indifference. As if all of us secretly didn’t wish deep down that they had so much money they could spend $2k on what should be 20.
I think you understand it perfectly fine, you just don’t like what it implies about us all.
It’s terrible isn’t it?
That are only options are being superior or inferior or lying about our indifference? I guess.
I just don’t understand the appeal of paying $3,000 for a handbag when a $20 handbag will can do just the same thing.
The appeal is that a $3,000 handbag sends a signal, one that you have $3,000 to spend on a handbag and are the type of person who would do such a thing.
Exactly. Our society worships money. It’s really not that hard to grasp.
So why do people buy 3000 dollar mechanical watches when a 20 quartz dollar watch can keep time better? Why do people buy 300 dollar mechanical keyboards when a 20 dollar rubber dome can also get words on your PC screen? Why do people spend thousands of dollars on Magic the Gathering cards when you can buy the same number of cards for 20 dollars?
Being into designer fashion isn’t much different than other expensive hobbies, and the cost benefit of a hobby item is the last thing on the mind of any enthusiast provided they can afford it.
I like these brands cuz they’re like “from the rich, to the rich” kind of things. It has nothing to do with the rest of us. And we don’t understand them either, like I recently bought some nice looking shoes made in probably some Chinese factory and they’re gonna last me for years. Same thing with some branded shoes just more expensive, it’s not they last longer or anything either cuz planned obsolescence.
Looks anorexic to me. Hope they are fine
I looked a lot like that as a teenager while going through some growth spurts. I ate like an elephant (1990s taco tuesdays at Taco Bell we’d each get a 12 pack after school), but I was still 150-160 at 6’3” (60 something kilos and 190something cm).
This person might be a little lighter, but I couldn’t put on muscle to save my life back then. Not till I was in my 20s did I get above 170.
Edit: forgot how to divide by 2.2…
but I was still 150-160 at 6’3” (30something kilos and 190something cm).
150-160 lbs is definitely not “30 something kilos”. It’s more than double that, around 70 kg. Just FYI or for any other weird-unit users out there who aren’t familiar with standard kg. 😅
When I read 190cm and 30kg, I was kinda shocked
That would look like a skeleton, I’m pretty sure. 😅
I legitimately thought this was a joke, at first. Like taking some internet meme I’m unfamiliar with and putting it in an ad for Prada.
Because body positivity isn’t for skinny people.
There are some truly skinny people, but most don’t look this emaciated. If they showed different body types, then you might have something.
Body image issues aside, I just could not imagine going through life with so little upper and lower body strength. Just seems so impractical and inconvenient to choose to be this way.
I agree completely. Same with the long fingernails and huge boob implants! Why would you choose to make yourself more useless? It seems so silly…
Low self-esteem is gonna do that to you.
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Troll right? that comment was unnecessary and inflammatory. Inb4 another paragraph from you full of argumentative bullshit 🙄
You’re just repeating someone else’s sypthities regarding different people with body image issues. If this were a child who got anorexia through exposure to pop culture, then their responsibility to their condition is lessen, but these are fashion models. They’re the ones perpetuating the toxic cycle. They’re grown adults who have the resources to remove themselves from the situation and seek help. If they’re not the ones choosing to be this way, then who is?
What stage is the cancer?
5/7
Yuck.
Gender doesn’t matter (and can’t be determined) this is ugly thin and ugly haircut to the extreme.
Weight aside, that haircut is atrocious.
The guy doesn’t look much better, just drowned in a suit
Looking at other photos though Prada seem to prefer models this skinny
Is Prada trying to bring back the baggy suit look? Please no, it was horrible.
Jesus fuck this is literally starvation
Heroin chic is the technical term, I believe 😖
This isn’t mild.
Someone feed that boi
Girl, but okay.
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Joke but okay. Also way to assume a person’s identity
She’s modelling for the women’s section of the Prada website, so it’s reasonably safe to assume she is a woman.
Always bad to assume gender of course, but “boi” is also often used by women with a meaning similar to “tom boy”, or “butch”, or just a woman who presents more masculine than average. Anyway, I don’t know who the model is or their preferences, just wanted to clarify the term that was used is used by several genders, most of whom are not men.
And many women find being referred to as boi to be incredibly insulting. Especially if they are more androgynous, and it’s often used as an insult against them.
And when the model is specifically modelling for the women’s section of a store, is is pretty safe to assume gender. It is highly unlikely someone would model for a gender they aren’t.
