EU stops advertising on X over hate speech. Fines could follow next year::The European Union is pulling its advertisements from Elon Musk’s X for now, citing an “alarming increase” in hate speech and disinformation on the platform formerly known as Twitter.

  • @seananigans@lemmy.world
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    572 years ago

    This comment will make me sound like an idiot, but I’m just coming to believe that all of Musk’s decisions with X were targeted to this very outcome. To be the world’s centre of alt right propaganda. It just makes too much sense now.

    • @Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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      292 years ago

      He’s not that smart. He got stuck having to buy Twitter after his pump and dump backfired. His solution to having to buy Twitter was to cut costs by firing staff and use his celebrity to manufacturer engagement with troll posts.

      The problem he missed was that staff was necessary to keep hate speech under control and his trolling meant to drive engagement would backfire from advertisers and regulators.

    • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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      232 years ago

      I wouldn’t say idiot, just very naive when it comes to your assessment of Musk’s ability to think ahead. He’s basically a South African Alex Jones who started out rich(er) 🤷

    • @Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world
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      You’d be right. 10 days before he bought it, Musk got linked a plan to buy twitter and turn it into right-wing American WeChat.

      I heard about it on Rachel Maddow’s October 2 show (has it really been 2 months since then?)

    • @thejml@lemm.ee
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      32 years ago

      Not sure why you’d assume you sound like an idiot. You’re just coming to a hypothesis based on all available information. It seems like a sane train of reasoning based on all the empirical evidence we’ve seen thus far.

      It’s likely that he didn’t mean for it to happen the way it did, or that he hoped there’s a bigger appetite or marketplace for X in this capacity. It’s also possible he didn’t think it all through as was made more likely by the way he was trying to come up with reasons to get out of the deal.

    • @Bremmy@lemmy.ml
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      22 years ago

      He’s just a stupid narcissist that came into money. They don’t think that far ahead, and it makes him look bad so he wouldn’t want this outcome

  • @arc@lemm.ee
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    362 years ago

    Elon was mulling pulling out of the EU and I really want this dumbass to follow through on that threat.

    • @thriveth@lemmy.world
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      112 years ago

      It is not. But it has been doing some right things when it comes to privacy protection and so on.

      Still, Trump’s border wall and caged children are merely cute compared to the shit going on at the borders of the EU.

      • @PlexSheep@feddit.de
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        112 years ago

        I disagree. The EU is one of the best things that ever happened to us Europeans, who knows, we might be fighting another war if history went different.

        Politically, the EU spins around between based decisions and crap like chat surveillance, but over all, it has been a major contributor to the high standard of life in Europe, I’m convinced of this.

    • @whome@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Not for long we all get very right to fascist governments the next year’s and things will go south. Germany with a CDU/AFD coalition, Le pen in France, if those two happen I see a dark future ahead, but hey climate change will bite us in the ass anyway. Why not go under under fascist leadership…

    • @JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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      Until you find out it lets Muslim immigrants (80% of whom prefer sharia law over eu law) take over entire towns & countries.

        • @JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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          -272 years ago

          It got me banned from reddit, but I ain’t even half right nor even a bit extremist. I just walked around in Rotterdam, Almere, Marseille, Barcelona and such. Have you?

          • @thriveth@lemmy.world
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            132 years ago

            I have. I have even lived in and right next to the widely decried “no-go zones” of Sweden, and can testify that the whole thing is a pile of racist bullshit.

              • @SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world
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                112 years ago

                Words have implications, and you are implying these immigrants want sharia law to be impemented. Do you have examples of this? Why did you mention these cities? What’s special about them?

                • @JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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                  -92 years ago

                  They are unsafe for regular people. They are not Europe anymore after 7pm.

                  Yes, the implications are that people will democratically vote to stop democracy. That is not good for a country/unión.

                  They won’t be the mayority, but they can surely negativily change a society without being a majority.

                  WILL ALL THE NON EUROPEANS FK OFF PLZ? OR VISIT MARSEILLE AFTER 7PM FIRST. THNX

        • @JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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          -292 years ago

          That is not at all what I said. I said the mayority of Muslims in Europe prefer sharia law. You are CHANGING my words. That sick fundy behavior.

          • Marxism-Fennekinism
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            Your unchanged words:

            Until you find out it [the EU] lets Muslim immigrants (80% of whom prefer sharia law over eu law) take over entire towns & countries.

            Provide examples then. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and the burden of providing such evidence is on the claimant and no one else.

            And surely if you have a numeric figure like 80% for the proportion of Muslim immigrants in the EU who supposedly prefer sharia law, you can cite the source in which the statistic came from, and the source will list their data collection and analysis methodology which will also surely be logically and mathematically sound, right? Riiiiight?

      • Flying Squid
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        182 years ago

        Which country has Muslim immigrants taken over? Name it please.

        • @fosforus@sopuli.xyz
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          Most of Middle East and North Africa from 7th century on. Most of the area of current Spain and Portugal was under Islam rule for 5 centuries.

          Currently? Sweden’s Malmö is probably the closest example of a slowly happening “takeover”.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_the_European_Union_by_Muslim_population

          Is this a problem? That I don’t claim to definitely know, but it doesn’t feel like a great direction for a secular atheist such as myself.

            • @fosforus@sopuli.xyz
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              Yes, it’s possible that it’s a similar hyperbole and nothing to worry about ultimately.

              The reasons why jews were hated/distrusted in history seem to be different from the reasons why muslims are.

        • @JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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          -172 years ago

          Which port town? Rotterdam, Marseille, Barcelona, etc

          Because countries arnt yet at that level.

          30-40% of babies born are non European decent.

          I’m not even saying that’s a bad thing. But ANYONE THAT PREFERS SHARIA LAW OVER EUROPEAN (OR RESPECTIVE COUNTRY’S) LAW, should NOT be in Europe.

            • @JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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              -82 years ago

              Sorry, this is true if you include countries like Poland and Hungary.

              IT ISN’T TRUE IF YOU LOOK AT PORT CITIES. and small towns can be overrun within a week

              Ps MY BEST FRIENDS ARE (PROGRESSIVE) MUSLIMS. nothing against them! But adding even more immigrants that aren’t educated nor socially connected to ANY European thing isn’t good… They aren’t like the Mexicans…

          • @thriveth@lemmy.world
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            102 years ago

            Thinking that any political opinions are fundamentally “Non-European” is a fundamentally totalitarian and racist mindset. I reject your attempts at gatekeeping my politics based on your arbitrary and chauvinistic ideas of “European” values. But hey, there is nothing more inherently European than racism, so I guess you’re living up to your own ideals there.

            • @JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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              -52 years ago

              I specifically mentioned EUROPEAN LAW vs SHARIA LAW and the fact that 80% of European Muslims prefer the latter.

              THAT’S A FACTUAL STATEMENT FROM A LARGE PUBLIC INQ.

            • @JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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              02 years ago

              We’re not idiotic Americans. Of the native population, only a small percentage wants church rule

      • @arc@lemm.ee
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        122 years ago

        Twitter is filled with idiots who’ll pronounce London/Paris/wherever is under Sharia law. Never seems to occur to them that this is very easy to fact check.

        • @JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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          -222 years ago

          I definitely did not say that they were under sharia law. I made several factual statements. But ALL of you manage to Twist my words. Sick rethoric!

          • @arc@lemm.ee
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            62 years ago

            Nah you tried to imply something not born out by reality and got downvoted for it.

            • @JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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              -32 years ago

              Read my original words. It says 80% of Muslims in Europe would prefer sharia vs euro law.

              That’s the result of a large scale double blind inquiry. It’s not implying anything it’s just reality.

              Ps i actually like Muslims. More as insane xtians… At least they don’t twist and change their books words every few years…

              • @IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee
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                80% of christians would prefer christian law over any government law. So would Jews. Both have committed mass genocides to reach that goal.

                Now what was your point?

  • @DieguiTux8623@feddit.it
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    252 years ago

    Misinformation has already spread in the continent. This will be downvoted but “too little, too late” is the only thing that comes to my mind reading that piece of news.

    • @killeronthecorner@lemmy.world
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      52 years ago

      a fine is unlikely until next year as each of the EU’s 27 member states first needs to appoint national “digital services coordinators” — with the power to impose penalties — by February 17. So far, only two states, Italy and Hungary, have done so, a commission spokesperson told CNN.

  • SirStumps
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    -52 years ago

    I mean all social media has hate speech of one kind of another and it’s almost all misinformation or part truths. Really depends on the agenda.

  • @Wrench@lemmy.world
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    -122 years ago

    I get, and approve of, ending your sponsorship via ads. But I don’t think legal recourse should be rewarded.

    Any business transaction has risk. If you decide to advertise on Superbowl, you’re putting your chips on NFL.

    If you’re advertising on Twitter, after the Musk purchase, your money is on Musk and Twitters staff to continue the value. If Musk says stupid shit that devalues your investment… well, that’s on you for putting your money on it, and not exercising your exit clause a year ago.