If you vote republican, you’re not a good person, and never have been since the party flip-flop. They’ve always been the party trying to suppress the rights of anyone who isn’t a rich white male.
And now they’re literally traitors trying to overthrow our government.
I never would in a million years
You don’t have to be the person who overthrows the government.
Your vote is for people who incite the overthrowing.
Fuck that I wouldn’t vote for them
Why say you support a political party, then say you wouldn’t ever vote for them? Doesn’t that make you… Not a republican?
When did I say I support their party?
In the earlier comments someone said supporting a party that would overthrow the government is bad, and you said
I never would in a million years
Which sounded like a “yeah but i wouldn’t overthrow the government”, leading to me assuming you considered yourself a republican
No I realise it could be taken that way. If you read further up their comment it says if you vote for someone it’s the same as overthrowing the government. I wrote I would never in response to the voting part, I didn’t need to go any further but I understand how it may have been taken that way
Are you saying “some republican voters are good people” or “some republican politicians are good people”?
For the first one, that’s probably true but irrelevant. I think most republican voters are trying to do good with their vote, but they’ve got so caught up in Republican fascism that they honestly think voting red is good.
For the second one, I highly doubt it. They don’t have the cult behavior excuse, so at best, they’re completely selfish, enough to put their job security over the lives of others.
I agree strongly with you. The problem is weak leadership from the republicans. The people are just along for the ride on the most part. If the politicians weren’t so spineless and scared of losing their own power they might actually stand up to the shit ones for what they believe in
And some Catholics don’t rape children. But they enable those who do.
Same goes for cops. If you support the people who hurt others, you’re complicit in the hurting of others.
“I’m a good person. I just don’t believe that kids should get food from the govt. So what if some kids are a little hungry. Their parents need to work harder”
If you support violent extremists that try to install a dictatorship you’re not a good person.
I do not support them no. If a kid steals a cookie is he a bad person or is he not thinking things through?
Republicans aren’t children stealing cookies.
They often have the same cognitive ability for critical thinking. Although after this post I’m not so sure of either side
Stop with the “they’re all the same” bullshit. Yes the other side are shite, but one side are absolutely worse
I don’t think I said I think they are all the same. I obviously think in general they are on the wrong side of history. But there’s also some acknowledgment that there are some really shitty liberals too
Wait, if you’re a Republican and you’re admitting that Republican politicians don’t have critical thinking ability, then why are you still voting for having them run a country and affecting the livelihoods of millions (billions) of people?
If the only Republican policies you’re supporting are benign ones (as a non-American, I don’t know which those are), are they worth all the ones that oppress and take away the rights of others?
And if you’re a Republican but not a fan or voter of the Republican party as it stands, then maybe you need to reconsider what your definition of a Republican is, because Republicans themselves today are defining themselves in ever-bolder terms.
I’m not a republican. I’m not even American, I’m Mozambican. But I do vote liberal in my country
Then that leads to the even bigger question of how you know that not all Republicans - at least, its uniquely American construction - are bad?
(If you mean to say that in your country, republican is a beautiful-smelling flower, then the answer to that is that in common internet discourse, it has come to mean the American GOP, and people who may be taking the hyperbolic stance that all Republicans are bad are talking specifically about those Republicans. Just FYI.)
And don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge supporter of the idea that increased polarisation and demonisation of the other side is only going to push people towards extreme positions and alienate those who only support a small number out of the basket of things that are in that box: things that may be necessary for their continued survival or way of life.
Nonetheless, given what the Republican party has begun to stand for more and more, with its wilful ignorance and inexplicable support for Trump, it is becoming increasingly indefensible to believe that people who will vote for that particular team, regardless of the consequences, are not basically complicit in evil.
I personally don’t think all Republicans are bad. But even the good ones have had years to consider if maybe they were the baddies. And if they recognise that there are deplorables among them, then maybe they shouldn’t take criticism towards the loudest of them so personally either. And consider moving away from the Republican brand.
I’m basing my opinions off the internet. Can’t go anywhere without hearing about it. I’m not completely against the idea of conservation as a way to slow down some things that may be moving too fast and can have unexpected and unintended consequences. Republicans appear to have a funny idea of what conservative means. I think what I’m trying to get across is that as long as it’s an us vs them attitude and the idea that they are always wrong, dumb, brain dead idiots, there’s not going to be a bridge to figure out what the hell they are thinking
Then you’d do well to get informed before spouting nonsense.
Spouting nonsense is a great way to become informed. There’s never a shortage of people who want to correct you
No, they don’t. All you seem to be doing is to say Republicans aren’t bad, but you aren’t showing us how that is.
Well if you look you will find some examples. Didn’t the republicans vote for the veterans care act to push through the use of psilocybin and mdma for treatment resistant veterans suffering from ptsd? I would imagine it would have been hard to go against the grain to make that decision and I’m sure there were a lot of republican voters who weren’t happy but it seems like the obvious right choice
Well this is just anectodotal you guys, but my mom is a Republican
And totally not a good person.
Everybody else is shooting you down here, But I’ll meet you in the middle with an even harder to swallow pill.
There are Republicans who AREN’T BAD people, they are just ignorant. Not stupid, necessarily, but ignorant and uneducated. They might think they’re doing good but they are very very wrong.
I worked with a guy that was a hard-core conservative, like just shy or real far-right talking points. Anyway he told me he doesn’t watch the news. Not that he only watches fox news, I mean he doesn’t watch any news at all. He gets his information from Facebook and tiktok
Yes this is what I believe but im not right all the time either so I try to listen. Often it will just confirm what I thought to begin with but sometimes a see it a bit different
You taking about the elected officials, or the voters? You’ll have a much harder time finding politicians who are legitimately good people, let alone republicans.
I used to work for Republicans, much to my chagrin. To your point: the elected officials know they are misleading ignorant average people. They understand exactly what they are doing, ESPECIALLY when they’re at their most hypocritical. I heard it from their lips repeatedly. They are all fucked in the head, even in personal interactions. It’s trashier WWE.
Some republicans think they are good people. There, fixed it for ya
Every “good person” I know of every political strip is horrifically cruel and violent towards intelligent creatures many times a day. Absolutely needlessly. And they deal with this by simply not thinking about it.
Do you think there are some that are trying to balance everything as best they can? As in if they had to chose to cut health or housing you’re going to be an asshole either way
Every single one of them are needlessly – absolutely needlessly and to their own great detriment – participating in atrocity against thinking, feeling creatures who once had the capacity to love them. There’s no question of balance. Everyone loses.
I agree I think they are on a poor trajectory. I can’t see how calling them evil and disgusting is going to change their behaviour. We’ve done that. It doesn’t seem to work. If anything they wear it as a badge of pride because they don’t believe a word of what we are saying. I can only see a solution of showing patience and compassion to those who have been misled and being resolute in calling out the bullshit from the people using them. If we can reach the ones who are good and have been misled more might wake up after them. There will be no possibility of a majority or power and their party will be forced to change or cease to exist. And you’re right everyone loses. Do you want everyone to lose or do you want to be the bigger person. It sucks but there’s no fire with fire. It’s a race to the bottom and we’re already on our way
I can’t see how calling them evil and disgusting is going to change their behaviour.
You read that in.
Sorry, what are you saying?
read into
vb (tr, preposition) to discern in or infer from a statement meanings not intended by the speaker or writer
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/read+intoYou read “calling them evil and disgusting” into the text. It was not there.
That was not my intention. I suppose after reading everyone’s comments that was the general vibe I was getting from most people. I apologise if that was not this individual comments intentions.
Well they sure do a good job of hiding it
If they don’t want to vote for fascists, they shouldn’t be in the Republican party.
some republicans are good people in the same way some cops are good cops.
… ARAC
All Republicans Are Cops?
Somehow less awkward than if he got it right…
you got the last letter of the C-word right, but it’s one letter too short.
All Republicans Are Chops
Good analogy. Imagine if there were no good cops
There are a few but we must assume all cops are bastards as a matter of self defence because the consequences of being wrong about it are atrocious. But you know that, don’t you?
I do but I’m open to there being good ones. Assume they’re bad but be open to the idea there might be good ones
Any individual cop may prove they specifically are not bad right now, but keep your guard up because it only takes a bad day to change that, and/or the system and constant exposure to bad cops and stupid laws and criminals to grind them down
unfortunately, I entirely lack imagination. happily, however, this is not a case where one is needed.
How can something so vague and superfluous be reality shattering?
The good ones are usually very misguided people, oblivious to what they are really up to in my experience.
