Man we really fucked this place up
Slave. The word is slave. “Forced labor” sounds like it’s downplaying the severity.
I don’t mean to downplay the severity, but there are procedural differences. Slavery was pro forma banned at the time. Effectively, I agree, for all practical purposes of the folk in chains, it was slavery.
Didn’t know Australians still had slavery so late in history.
Formally, it wasn’t slavery. Effectively, it was.
I’m seeing chains on necks, looks like slavery to me. Even if they were prisoners, that is inhumane.
Fucking greasy to think it’s so close to recent history.
The current US prison system is effectively legalised slavery, and is a big reason why US system doesn’t do reform and incentives recedivism
Still literally in the US constitution. 13th:
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction
doesn’t count if you don’t think those wearing chains are people.
What gets me is that yeah that’s their excuse, but if someone treated, say, an orangutan or a baboon like this I’d think that was pretty fucked up too. We were so gross. We still are (dog fighting, circus elephants etc) but the cruelty that we’re capable of without what is essentially moral peer pressure, is chilling to think about. Even today we fight tooth and nail against moral progress and treating everyone with respect.
It was still happening in the 1970’s.
America still had slavery in the 1940s when the last slave was freed (might’ve been later than that) and it still has slavery in the form of prison labor
And we still have slavery. It is legal per the 13th amendment. Disgusting.
Can you tell me more about that?
Here’s where I got this information, it’s a long watch but well worth it. video
His videos are really detailed, fact based and eye opening for sure.
China still has slavery today.
Also India, many places in Europe, the Arab states, South and North America. Or do you mean China is specially “slavey”?
I mean sure maybe idk anything about china. What made you bring it up?
They didn’t even class indigenous Australians as people, until late 1960’s. They were considered fauna.
That’s a myth that needs to end.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-20/fact-check-flora-and-fauna-1967-referendum/9550650
Is it ? Australia hold a référendum this year to give a bit more rights to native people. They voted against it.
Yes?
I am Australian. And the vote wasn’t about rights, it was about representation.
You can use the wording you want, Australia is a racist country that shows no respect to the native people.
I’ll take solace in knowing we will never be as racist as Europeans. Because we’re a proud multicultural country and you’re the lot who keep toying with nationalism and genocide.
You would never hear anyone in Australia mutter the vile hate they spew towards Romani. And their treatment of refugees is so bad, that they make us look good in comparison.
At the end of the day, outside of say NZ/Canada you will not find a less racist country.
So cry all you want.
He, it is not a contest. I never say Europe was less racist than other country/area. Just I don’t hide by using some words to softening the reality.
I don’t try to move away the initial discussion : we don’t care if it is true or not that native people where considered as fauna. The point was native people are considered as second class people, that do not deserve respect, unfortunately.
It was a British penal colony up until 1840
It’s crazy to me that people can look at this picture and then immediately start arguing about semantics.
He looks way too fucking smug
Even today, only cursory recognition that the Aboriginal people remain excluded from their own lands and ways
Hey you could get a token reservation increased policing a nation that thinks themselves native and have since 1740 at the very least.
“We forge the chains we wear in life.” -some white person.
That statement isn’t about slavery, or labor, it’s about emotional bondage.
The statement is about whatever the last person to crotchet it on a pillow believed it to be.
It’s a quote from Dickens, A Christmas Carol. It’s about our sins binding us to misery or torment.
Australia was founded on using convicts as labourers and this still exists today, except now we pay them $1 an hour.
That enormous cockhole Rolf Harris sung about this in Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport like it was no big deal. And it was a huge hit and no one said anything.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but the lyrics you wrote are the only lyrics to the entire song that I know, and I’ve always thought it was just some weird gibberish. Granted, I’ve never actively listened to it or sought it out, I’ve only heard it in passing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tie_Me_Kangaroo_Down,_Sport
There was an offensive verse in the original song, later deleted. But this is far from the most offensive thing about Rolf Harris.
What fine, upstanding men there were in days gone by.
Could be the low resolution/beards but I am honestly surprised at how similar everyone looks. I guess that’s how it is as an island aboriginal - not a lot of genes to mix
Well, they all have the same expression on their faces, probably because there’s only one way to feel when you’re chained up and made to sit on the floor while someone takes your picture.
They look pretty distinct to me, but different hairstyles and clothing, neither of which are plentiful here, are often more eye-catching in differentiating people at a glance.
Ah yes, just a tiny 7,692,024 km2 island, just a quick 150km Kai Marina sailing trip from PNG and Indonesia.
Human genome studies continue to explore the the genetic diversity of indigenous Australians, as it’s a key to help understand early human migration. ABC summary of the genome report.
Australia is really not that much smaller than the lower 48 of the USA, and yet people (mostly Americans) seem to think it’s some tiny rural island.
