I’d imagine they fake an American accent. Maybe Burbank, CA?
What makes you think there are Renaissance festivals in the UK?
They just call them festivals and dress nicer.
There’s indeed renaissance festivals in UK.
I’m pretty sure they pretend to speak old English there.
Why wouldn’t they?
Because we have a lot of history. If we’re doing an historic festival it would be more specific about the period, not just some homogeneous “past”. But that said, such festivals are quite rare anyway
The Renaissance is not “some homogeneous past”, it’s a pretty specific time period: the 15th and 16th centuries.
Yes, but renaissance fairs in the US are not actually about the renaissance. They are pretty much just “vague Ye olden days”/fantasy fairs.
Thats two hundred years and would cover the end of Plantagenet reign and the Tudor era.
Henry VIII reign happened during that period, at the beginning of your time period everyone would be catholic and at the end Queen Mary of Scotts was executed because the idea of a Catholic on the throne was unthinkable.
The UK is littered with castles and estates, normally they focus on specific historic events which happened at that location.
A “specific” span of 200 years?
Why would they speak French or Italian? The Rennaisance happened in Britain too and they spoke ye olde English back then.
Word on the street is that American English is actually closer to the English spoken by the British when they first landed and colonized the Americas. After the war they went back to their lil island and forgot how to pronounce their Rs.
Yo my dude! Me and the Boston Boardwalking Composite got your fuckin back.
https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20180207-how-americans-preserved-british-english
Americans parrot this point. Its not true but sounds like it could be, so it sticks.
Americans often also claim they invented Pizza
Simply not true, nonsense made up by a journalist when they had some column inches to fill.
Their “source” was the way Bostonians pronounce one single word
Their source is linguistic history. The English decided that the letter R only exists if it’s surrounded by vowels in the late 18th/ early 19th century.
You should never trust the word on the street, it is prone to lying.
You are lying!
Renaissance fairs are an American thing. They don’t exist in the UK.
You say that very confidently and are pretty well upvoted but I found several in a quick search:
https://jorvikvikingfestival.co.uk/ https://tewkesburymedievalfestival.org/ https://fantasyforest.co.uk/ http://www.renaissancefaire.co.uk/
Is this ‘renaissance fair’ branding is a new thing? I did a few historical/fantasy weekend larps when I was younger but they were never called ‘renaissance fairs’.
In Minnesota US they’ve been around since September 11, 1971
I think larps are slightly different I would say https://loxwoodjoust.co.uk/immersive-festival/ where the visitors see the reenactors, and while some cosplay, the renenactment is a performance by a cast.
Where as LARP (e.g. Empire) is all the “visitors” are in the cast
I’ve never heard of a renaissance fair over here. And one of the examples you give, jorvik viking festival, is surely set several centurias before the renaissance.
All Renaissance fairs are really medieval fairs.
They ended up called Renaissance Fairs because a radio ad exec in California thought it was a more broadly appealing name when the first one was held, and it stuck.
I’ve wondered about the name for a while, thanks for explaining!
They might exist, but they aren’t widely known about like they are in the USA
“Rwy’n hoffi chi. Dych chi eisiau mynd i’r caffi gyda mi am baned o goffi?”
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“I like you. Do you want to go to the café with me to have a cup of coffee?”
I’m still learning Welsh, so this might contain mistakes, but it’s better than saying you don’t understand her… For future reference, you know.
Edit: Meant to reply to the comment below me.
You call a fantasy event a renaissance festival?
Arguable but the last time I was at the RenFest in Larkspur, there were Jedi and Star Fleet officers there.
That’s the big difference between the US ren faires and the European ones.
The ones over here are usually organized by castle museums or therelike, so in general, they are quite grounded in reality.
You might have a herb witch or something like that over here, but you won’t have dragons, magic or Disney present there.
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https://loxwoodjoust.co.uk/immersive-festival/ I think is closest to American ren faire.
Renaissance fairs are an American thing. They don’t exist in the UK.
I don’t know the UK, so I might be wrong, but it’s not an US only thing (beside the naming).
I’ve seen various form of medieval markets/festivals on several continental Europe countries, and I don’t see why it wouldn’t cross the channel. Even though, Historical re-enactment is a niche hobby, it’s not that uncommon to find group focused on the a given historical period caring a lot about the details, no matter if they re-enact the Viking, The crusade, or Napoleon’s army (If you visit Belgium during the Waterloo battle anniversary, you can see these groups re-enacting the battle). LARP is also a thing in the whole western Europe, it’s way less realistic as we do have elves and orcs, the biggest worldwide runs in Germany Trailer and UK has also some big ones and a lot of smaller ones.
So I’m sorry to disagree with your claim
They exist here in Australia too. Which is a Commonwealth country with lots of English influenced heritage and culture.
I watched a catapult fire projectiles into a castle moat outside of Cardiff at a medieval fair. Also got propositioned by a Welsh girl, but couldn’t understand what she was saying.
While not a renaissance fair exactly, there is a jousting tournament in Leeds Castle in Kent once or twice a year. It’s a lot of fun with armour, swords, horses, the whole shebang.
Pity. It isn’t even my thing but the few I have been to I have enjoyed. Kinda cool seeing how glass and metal tools were made back in the day.
Speaking as an American, when I was doing the ren fair thing… I used a shitty French accent and told people it was burgundeon.
It’s bullshit, but a) it was different b) it was fun being “the bad guys”and picking fights (ahem duels) and c) the rest of my costume was fairly on point, as a musketeer- either one of the king’s or Cardinal Reicheleiu’s.
It was a really shitty French accent. I apologize to the French for that crime….
(edit, fixed my spelling error… its been a while…)
While we’re working on your spelling, it’s
Burgundian
Which, en français, would be
Bourguignon (boor geen yone)
But of course you weren’t doing French, you were doing English in a terrible fake French accent so maybe your spelling is a more accurate representation!
p. s. You still have an extra e in Richelieu. Reich is more German than French
But of course you weren’t doing French, you were doing English in a terrible fake French accent so maybe your spelling is a more accurate representation!
we will go with that and not my bad spelling and mobile being of no help.
You’re supposed to be the bad guy, tho. So you’re not supposed to apologise for your crime.
Richelieu?
The “evil mastermind” in Les Trois Mousquetaires by Dumas and with, uh, numerous adaptations into film as “The three musketeers”
He was a historical figure and the chief minister to King Louis XIII
So long as you sounded like the French knight in Monty Python and the holy grail, you’ll have a good chunk of Britain backing you up.
Wouldn’t they just speak renaissance English?
English back then was spoken quite differently. I know that, at the Globe Theater in London, they give some performances in what is considered to be an historically-accurate accent and dialect for Shakespeare’s time (early-mid 17th century, aka Elizabethan English), and it can be difficult to understand at times, but some of Shakespeare’s puns and jokes work better due to the change in pronunciation. IIRC, there’s a video of a father and son team who worked it all out explaining it on YouTube. Sorry, I’m on mobile, or I’d link it.
A good three quarters of Shakespeare (and most contemporaries) is topical humour and references to current events. The puns and toilet humour are eternal though
Despite being in America, the one here is not called a Ren Fest, but a Medieval Faire. It’s also held at a B&B which was built to look like a medieval castle on the inside and the outside. I go for the music, which is lots of fun. The falconry demonstration can be neat too.
There are vendors which sell stupid ‘magic’ stuff, but it’s pretty decent overall.
Much better, however, is the Feast of the Hunter’s Moon in Lafayette, Indiana, which is the same idea as a Renaissance Festival, except for Colonial America/France and the indigenous American nations that lived in Indiana at the time… The food is more authentic and the costumes are amazing. There are dozens of regiments that march through the field and they set up and live like it was the late 1700s. It’s probably the only time you can get rabbit stew in Indiana.
Whoa, is that the Ren Fest in Larkspur? I spent many summer days there when I lived in Colorado.
Or is there a standardized fake castle gate you can order premade?
I thought this looked like Bristol in Wisconsin. I can say it’s definitely NOT Phoenix…there’s actual trees in this pic. 🤣
That is Larkspur. I’m from Denver, and recognized it immediately (also I image searched Larkspur ren faire to double check I wasn’t misremembering what it looks like). I’m sure other ren-faires have similar things, but that castle facade has been there since at least the 1980s, and I kind of doubt that was something you could get pre-fabricated back then.
This looks exactly like the one we’re about to attend soon in North Carolina. I’m pretty sure there actually is just a prefab castle wall company that’s cranking these out.
You’re right, this is from the one in Larkspur.
Yup. Larkspur. I’d know it anywhere.
Totally thought it was the one in MD
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I always try to fake Andre the Giant.
You can’t fake Andre the giant. It comes from the heart.
They should at least speak in middle english.
Based on renaissance fairs there were no farmers back then.
I LARP with medieval theme. Most speak English…most don’t verily and ye (which is wrong as y is th anyway,). Some out in Scots accents for Celtic twist and some dinput on French accent for the rennaisance France flaire. But most just talk normally.
Used in place of the it’s wrong, it’s just pronounced the.
There was a ye though! It was the second person plural subject word (singular was thou). So we used to have a more official word for y’all when used as a subject. Y’all is cool though, we should all adopt it. I hate saying “you guys” or something, so awkward sounding.
Really happy to see people accepting “y’all” lol, It just makes so much sense!
Hear ye, hear ye! We do still use this sometimes.
So, like “thee”?
Thou was the singular second second person subject word, but thee was the singular second person object. So usage would be like “thou are talking to me” or “I am talking to thee.”
Ye was the plural second person subject, and you was the plural second person object. So instead of like “y’all are talking to me” now, you could say “ye are talking to me”. Or “I am talking to you” which would be referring to me talking to more than one person (not just one person like you’d think with modern usage of the word).
Doubly confusing because for singular the word ending in the “e” sound is the object pronoun, and for plural is the subject pronoun.
The word “you” eventually took over all these usages and is used for both subject and object now, and it’s mostly just used to mean singular now. We don’t really have a word for plural second person outside of using multiple words to clarify like “y’all” or “you guys.” We still have many other pronouns with the subject object divide though like “I” vs “me,” “he” vs “him,” or “who” vs “whom.”
Thanks, that was an interesting read!
They speak with a Georgian accent. Which is the closest to the old anglican accent.
British Renaissance Fair(e) may be redundant like “naan bread” or “muay thai boxing” 🙄
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