From article:

If you have the Brave Browser installed on your Windows devices, then you may also have Brave VPN services installed on the machine. Brave installs these services without user consent on Windows devices.

More reason to ditch the crypto bro browser.

    • funkajunk
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      42 years ago

      Not that I’m defending anybody but how is this touching your “network stack” any more than any other application?

      • @t3rmit3@beehaw.org
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        72 years ago

        because a VPN is both a new network interface, and it has the ability to change how your traffic routes. Most applications don’t do that.

        • funkajunk
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          12 years ago

          I see now that it was adding a wireguard interface, but without seeing the configuration being used, there’s no telling if they are routing anything more than the traffic from the browser.

          As an aside, are you serving applications from your workstation?

          • @t3rmit3@beehaw.org
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            Whether they route only the browser or traffic or not, that is messing with my traffic routing, and that’s dangerous. If they control the VPN exit node (but especially if they control that AND the browser), they can do almost anything they want with/ to your browser traffic.

            Not sure what me serving out applications from my endpoint device has to do with this, but yes, I sometimes do (LAN games, netcat listeners, python servers, etc).

          • @abhibeckert@beehaw.org
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            22 years ago

            there’s no telling if they are routing anything more than the traffic from the browser

            Yeah that’s the problem “there’s no telling”. Messing with network settings is opening a can of worms and highly likely to cause problems one day.

  • Engywook
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    https://old.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/17b0pxl/brave_appears_to_install_vpn_services_without/k5kwd97/

    https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/33726

    And crypto are disabled by default.

    No, I wont’ ditch it. It’s the best browser out there, right now, since scummy/corrupt/hypocrite Mozilla (which, remember, is in bed with Google, Amazon and Facebook while criticizing them) decided that Firefox is just a side project for them and they’re deceiving people making them believe that donations fund FF development.

    Don’t even bother to reply. I’m not going to fuel this shitty thread any further.

    • WastedJobe
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      812 years ago

      “In bed with”=takes their money to have their search engine and lets you change it in 30 seconds while being completely open source

      I don’t see the problem.

          • @30p87@feddit.de
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            0.980s by using ydotool key 29:1 20:1 20:0 29:0 -d 0 && ydotool type "about>preferences\n" -d 0 && sleep 0.26 && ydotool type "search engine\t" -d 0 && ydotool key 103:1 103:0 -d 20

      • @flora_explora@beehaw.org
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        62 years ago

        Tbf, changing the default search engine probably has the effect that the vast majority of users will stick with it. So, although it is pretty easy for you and me to change the search engine, it still promotes Google quite a lot and thus undermines the independent character of Firefox as a whole.

        • WastedJobe
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          222 years ago

          Absolutely. I would prefer they didn’t have google as the default, but I’d rather have Firefox with good funding and google as default than firefox with very little funding.

        • Pixel
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          62 years ago

          And brave being built on chromium is somehow markedly better?

          • @flora_explora@beehaw.org
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            12 years ago

            I wasn’t defending chromium or brave, not even commenting on them at all. I was just adding a caveat to what the other commenter said about Firefox.

    • Norgur
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      532 years ago

      No one told you to ditch it. But can you fanboii a little less aggressively, please?

    • Rikj000
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      442 years ago

      True open source projects like LibreWolf, Ungoogled Chromium > Sketchy world of Brave

      • @ByteWelder@lemmy.ml
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        I applaud LibreWolf’s efforts, but the hard-coded timezone makes it unusable for me. Other than that, it’s a great browser. I used it several months until the timezone confusion got the best of me.

    • @Moonrise2473@feddit.it
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      412 years ago

      It’s still a behavior like “we are the best software in the world, once we get admin permission we can do whatever we want without additional user consent, people appreciate it”.

      No. You must ask permission to install useless Windows services, even if they’re disabled.

    • @lukini@beehaw.org
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      302 years ago

      Don’t even bother to reply. I’m not going to fuel this shitty thread any further.

      Nah I’m gonna pile on. Firefox is better.

    • HeartyBeast
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      172 years ago

      You’re the one who made it shitty. But much to crap on the bed then get up and leave.