A programmer in northern China has been ordered to pay more than 1 million yuan to the authorities for using a virtual private network (VPN), in what is thought to be the most severe individual financial penalty ever issued for circumventing China’s “great firewall.” The programmer, surnamed Ma, was issued with a penalty notice by the public security bureau of Chengde, a city in Hebei province, on August 18. The notice said Ma had used “unauthorised channels” to connect to international networks to work for a Turkish company. The police confiscated the 1.058m yuan ($145,092) Ma had earned as a software developer between September 2019 and November 2022, describing it as “illegal income,” as well as fining him 200 yuan ($27).
Charlie Smith (a pseudonym), the co-founder of GreatFire.org, a website that tracks internet censorship in China, said: “Even if this decision is overturned in court, a message has been sent and damage has been done. Is doing business outside of China now subject to penalties?”
Abstract credit: https://slashdot.org/story/420019
So you can’t work for a Turkish company from China? Using a VPN is normal for work.
If your company needs a VPN it needs to be approved by the government first.
Wtf is wrong with China?
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The comment was asking about China and not you.
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Not spelling out the whole story to your satisfaction in the headline is no better than capricious law enforcement giving out penalties for something that shouldn’t be a crime ranging from nothing, to a $27 fine, to confiscating 3 years of income, to 13 years in prison?
The headline isn’t simply just a bad summary of what happened, it’s a gross, intentional misinterpretation of the facts to spread an agenda
Isn’t it illegal because he used a VPN? Seems like semantics.
let’s say you use weeds and weeds is legal where you are, but it’s illegal to drive after using weeds.
Now you’re arrested for DUI. Next day you make to the headline: “Man arrested for using weeds”. Is it the fact? Yes. Do you think it’s all the necessary facts?
Your opinion is based on the assumption that everyone should be allowed to use VPN to do anything. I may agree with you, but it doesn’t change how bad the article is.
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Intentionally misleading by summarizing partial facts is simply evil. Not sure if anyone may be satisfied with this approach, but even if some do, I’m willing to bet they will become unsatisfied if missing part of the facts is actually what they care about.
How is it misleading? Based on the info we have it seems accurate.
“Man’s income of 1m was confiscated due to using VPN for work’ would be accurate.
‘Man is fined 1m for using VPN’ is not.
There’s no evidence (yet) that someone will be fined this much by simply using vpn in China to browse otherwise banned sites.
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I’m not sure if I understand your point.
If you say their law sucks, their LE agency sucks, they freely interpret their laws in prosecution, etc. , I completely agree with you. But if you’re trying to say using vpn to browse internet in China can risk a big fine, which is what the title of the article is saying, I don’t think it’s accurate. News agency should state the facts, not their ill formed opinions.
It is saying that VPN use was the only excuse given by the authorities when he was “ordered to pay” them a large amount of money. While I don’t know for certain that it’s true, I still haven’t seen anything here or elsewhere to contradict that.
You’re just being pedantic… and calling this “simply evil” sounds like satire it’s so extreme
it wasn’t because he used a VPN, it was because his income was illegal. It’s just that using a VPN is what made the income illegal
He didn’t die from being shot, it’s just that all of his blood leaked out of the otherwise harmless bullet hole
This kind of reporting is the reason people in the west hate Chinese government.
All countries will confiscate illegally obtained income. Want to work cross-border? Do it with the proper visas, permissions, tax reporting, residencies, etc. There’s no story here, just more China hate to help beat the drums of war.
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Or you could abolish the state, like a normal, non-cucked person.
I’m open to suggestions as to how one does that while class still exists.
Viral meme that causes people to cease believing in the meme of the nation and the state. They’re basically like Santa Claus, they vanish once a certain critical mass of people cease believing in them.
china supporter in a privacy community 🤓
And the title is the clickbait.
I don’t get it; if I pay my taxes in my country of residence, how is it illegal to work for a foreign entity ?
Why would I need a visa if I stay in my own country ?
It seems the person in question didn’t report this income and therefore didn’t pay taxes on it.
US regime doesn’t even allow its citizens to visit Cuba let alone work there.
