The sidewalks are really dangerous where I am, where they are super uneven, have “artistic” curves, and trees that are overhanging really low so like will hit my body.
I go max 15 MPH on my escooter and if I hear a ding ding I jump onto the sidewalk and go a bit slower until you guys pass, since I’m slower and can dismount easier it only makes sense for me to make room. I figure as long as I make room it “shouldn’t” be a problem.
But just wondering if there are any bike riders that are just like shaking their fist at escooter riders.
EDIT: USA!
In my eyes having someone on an escooter in front of me is no different to having a slower cyclist in front. So it wouldn’t bother me.
Slower? The guy said he does 15mph, that’s pretty standard bicycle speed for me, I could go faster if I’m trying to really race somewhere but then my leggies get tireds >.<
Electric motor scooters are pretty neat, I wish I had one, but they’re sooo expensive :-(
One day, after the apocalypse makes money obsolete, I’ll take one from an abandoned shop while I’m scavenging for food :-D
25 km/h (15miles/h) is slow. A racing bicycle will without sweet do 40-50 km/h.
It’s not really up to Lemmy.
Please check your local laws regarding scooters and other electric powered vehicles bike lanes. If it’s legal, go ahead and ride there all you want.
No laws against it, but I’m just curious if I’m angering the faster and more athletic folks!
I’ll be much more irritated if you’re on the sidewalk. It’s more dangerous for pedestrians and for you. When you’re biking you expect to have to pass people whether it’s because they’re a slower cyclist or using a escooter. My old apartment had an exit at a blind corner and dealing with escooter riders on the sidewalk was hellish. I would pull out slowly so that pedestrians had plenty of time to stop, but when scooters became popular I had to start creating forward at a painfully slow pace because people going bike speeds somehow thought it was okay to be on the sidewalk.
There is a specific place I use sidewalk, but I always go slower and go onto street or walk by pedestrians.
The road is just super busy and nowhere to possibly be on road.
I think if you’re respectful most people won’t care. It’s just the small percent of jackasses that ruin it for everyone else.
Please ride in the bike lane, not the sidewalk. Go whatever speed feels safe for you.
Not only do I agree on the basis of everyone’s safety, but I WANT to see crowded bike lanes. Because eventually, I’d like bike lanes to replace cars, and outgrowing infrastructure is a basic part of expanding and changing it.
i love crowded bike lanes (well, multi-use paths in sweden) next to slower roads, because it gives me the justification for biking on the road.
I cycle every day to work and back and see e scooters everywhere, doesn’t bother me none as long as they follow road signage.
I don’t mind bikes, E or otherwise, in the bike lane, I do mind gas powered scooters, vespa etc. I’m not sure I can put a pin in why, except they stink and often are riding too fast and weaving in and out wrecklessly and just using the bike lane as a passing lane, returning to the regular road when they can
Hell i don’t even really mind electric golfcart-like vehicles on bike infrastructure, so long as they’re for commercial use, there’s enough space to very comfortably pass them, and they go really slow.
Way i see it that just means businesses are going to be pushing for more and better bike infrastructure rather than expanding the roads.
Noisy and stinky should be enough. But yeah they often seem to be driven by people who don’t regard others.
It’s illegal here. Motorized vehicles must ride in the road and obey traffic laws. Bicycles must ride in bike lane or road and obey traffic laws. Sidewalk for walking people or wheelchairs or similar.
But electric is ok? Is it just combustion engines?
The ones you stand on that go slowly? Our rules say you have to be 16 years or older and I was wrong, bike lanes are allowed, rules same as bicycle even though it’s motorized. Bike lane or road, stop at lights like a car, don’t ride on the line between cars.
In practice, I don’t think people are actually getting ticketed for riding them on the sidewalk, and I don’t really care either as long as they don’t run me over. If you cause a car accident because you were on the sidewalk moving faster than a jogger then you would be at fault. Like a bike, sidewalk can be a dangerous place if you aren’t moving slowly.
They’re faster than a bike, but not by much. That guarantees you have their stink in your nose for a long while, usually until paths separate.
We just had law amended to take into account eScooters. This is the exact thing they decided was okay. Up to 25km/h on bike lane or bike track or 6km/h (walking speed) on pedestrian paths. So I don’t personally mind eScooters as long as they behave properly, signaling turns, paying attention and not dangerously overtaking. This also applies to cyclists and all the other users of these lanes.
15 mph is plenty fast enough to belong in the bike lane. You’re good bro.
I’m Swiss but I reply because that’s an interesting topic 👍
Yeah please ride on the bike lane, I’m shocked to see how many people ride their e-scooters on the sidewalk
I say it’s perfectly fine to be in the bike lane. Much better than the sidewalk, when you’re going at that speed.
However, I would like to emphasize the importance of staying to the right at all times unless passing someone. Cyclists, bikers (less adept cyclists), and escooter riders should all adhere to this, but in my experience escooters are far less likely to do so. Same with signaling — tell people around you with hand signals which way you’re going to go well in advance, and go (gradually, carefully) toward that side of the bike lane / bike path before turning to ensure you don’t cut anyone off. Don’t weave between people. Be aware of your surroundings. Please don’t kill or maim anyone.
Good luck out there! Welcome to the land of the free from cars!
I don’t care where you ride it as long as you don’t act like a douchebag
Just give me some notice you’re passing me, that was always my fucking gripe with the food delivery guys in NYC. They just show up in your periphery and scare the fuck outta you. Ring a bell! Say hello! I’ll say hello back! Goodbye!
It annoys me that now in 2023 we have so many vehicles that we call “scooter”. I can think of three different types that fit the description.
I don’t think they’re talking about a rascal. And a vespa type would be in the car lane, not sidewalk.
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Bike lanes IMO are good for anything that needs a even level surface (as long as it’s not a car).
Most sidewalks I come across always seems to ramp up and down for driveways. I would even say a mobility scooter or even a wheel chair is perfectly acceptable in a bike lane. Most sidewalks are way to narrow unfortunately.
People really shouldn’t be in a bike lane on a wheel chair when there’s a sidewalk.
way to narrow
You need to go to Lubbock. And then it’s on Broadway, right new Avenue N.
Now you know the way to Narrow.
It doesn’t bother me unless you go super slow, which is rare.
In my country electric scooters are classified as bicycles, so they must use bicycle lane if one is available. To clarify, E-scooters like
not like electric Vespa or something. Their top speed must be limited to 25 km/h.
