• Nakedmole
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    “Lisa, if I didn’t have this gun, the king of England could walk right in here and start pushing you around!”

    • @designatedhacker@lemm.ee
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      162 years ago

      There are far fewer hurricanes. You also get a couple days warning on most weather events. I take your point though, between waking up to seeing a related push message and seeing this meme I had forgotten about it.

      At least it appears nobody died, only 5 injured.

  • @SuckMyWang@lemmy.world
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    The key to getting on with life is to have complete and utter disregard for the well-being of your children, family, friends, fellow countrymen and yourself.

    • Shizu
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      142 years ago

      “A man who has nothing to lose, has nothing to fear.”

      • @Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
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        222 years ago

        “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”. - Benjamin Franklin.

            • @SuckMyWang@lemmy.world
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              Is liberty referring to freedom? Liberation from what? What is freedom? The jan 6 people were mostly getting social media washed into their behaviour. Admittedly someone has to be open to it before they can be primed but each step is necessary to achieve this kind of mania. My point is how much are we truely freely thinking when we’re constantly having our attention pulled to events that have carefully curated narratives already prepared for our consumption.

              • @Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
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                22 years ago

                Well you have the freedom to buy into whichever flavor of propaganda you prefer. I don’t think there are too many alternatives flavors of propaganda offered to Chinese or Russian citizens…

      • @SuckMyWang@lemmy.world
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        32 years ago

        Sort of. This is more like “A man who cares for nothing, has no reason to care.” These people have everything to lose they just don’t think it will happen to them personally

      • @SuckMyWang@lemmy.world
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        That lion is attacking those people but it’s not me doing it therefore by doing nothing to help or prevent it I’m showing them that I care about them.

          • @SuckMyWang@lemmy.world
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            I don’t know and I probably shouldn’t be critical considering this. From what I can gather from your comment is that you do care. You can at least identify and admit there’s a problem so you’re miles ahead of a lot of people. Take steps for better work conditions and treatment when you can, not just for yourself but for your colleagues, help each other out, be kind, vote for good selfless people who care about those things you mentioned.

          • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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            32 years ago

            Yeah. I vote for people trying to fix these issues. I try to encourage responsibility with weapons. If I were queen of America I’d discuss with experts what the least restrictive means to prohibit these shootings are and work with them to solve it. But nobody is actually in charge here, we all are and none of us are. There is an incredible gun culture here to a degree that I really don’t think anyone but the Australians can relate to. They had a leader make the unpopular decision to get rid of the guns. Our leaders legally can’t. We can’t have a revolution to ban guns because we don’t have the support or the guns on our side. To change the law 2/3 of our states and our legislature have to agree to repeal one of our most culturally significant and politically relevant parts of our constitution. Meanwhile our lifetime appointed Supreme Court is striking down gun control laws

            • R0cket_M00se
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              Not only that, but it’s the bill of rights, if you can take away the second amendment what’s to stop authoritarians from taking the first as well? Or modifying it to preclude certain religions from the establishment clause?

              • @NOPper@lemmy.world
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                I see what you’re saying, but the 18th amendment would like a word. The whole point of the Bill of Rights is to be a living document that adjusts as time goes on. Preferably to make this a better country for everyone.

                • When was the last time Congress passed a new law, much less an amendment? They’re bought and sold by corporations to ensure that nothing, but the bare minimum to keep the government limping along, will ever get done

              • @letsgo@lemm.ee
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                It did in the UK. Not only did we ban guns, we also made carrying them a criminal offence. Nobody, not even crims, now casually carries guns around, because they know if they get stopped and searched, and the gun is found, they’re heading straight to the clink. So the only people that carry guns are (a) the few that have a genuine reason to, like airport security, and (b) crims carrying with intent, and the latter can get chucked into the clink directly with the gun carrying being direct proof of that intent.

                But you go on believing gun control doesn’t solve these problems if you want. The evidence from everyone else that has tried it is that (a) it works and (b) we’re not going to throw our gun control out on the grounds of it being useless, because it isn’t. Of course it doesn’t solve the problem 110% and there are OCCASIONAL, SURPRISING news reports about a shooting, not the routine business it is in the USA.

                And your comment about combatting the bourgeois is just ridiculous. they’ll just come after you with a bigger gun and more security than you can shake a stick at. Sure you might pop something off at one of them but the rest’ll blow your arse away in no time.

                This argument is hardly worth having anyway. Once America decided guns were more important than kids’ lives the gun lobby won. When you’ve decided kids are more important than guns we can talk further.

              • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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                I agree but it’s also the closest thing to whatever has helped. When I set aside American exceptionalism and ask what has worked it seems that funding social services, opposing right wing radicalization, and banning guns are what worked in other countries. I would much rather start with the first two and I’m conflicted on the last because I’m aware of the importance of arming the oppressed, but it is hard to deny the effectiveness that other countries seem to have found in banning guns. There’s just so many mass shootings, it’s exhausting and it’s been happening since I was a kid and I’d just really like to get to the point where someone shooting up a school is a shocking act of evil instead of a routine one.

  • @Isycius@lemmy.ca
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    202 years ago

    Well, to be fair, what they meant to say is “There is no way to prevent this while not changing gun law, state of mental healthcare, income inequality in economic classes, or criminal law and policing issues.” which is correct statement overall.

    • @masinko@lemmy.world
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      52 years ago

      That title is what the Onion (a satirical/parody news site) uses every time there is a major mass shooting in America.

  • lnee
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    I hear a bunch of N thing needs to happen, but the question is will that N solution help. The question to ask is, has someone run a study on N solution, and if so what’s the next best solution. Gather data like where are the things of interest happening e.g. region of city. Make shore that N solution does not try to fix a symptom and disregard a source problem. Is N thing is symptom there can be many sources which have different solutions.

    • @CarterDarter@lemmy.world
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      Obviously there’s a solution! Give underpaid and abused teachers guns and ask them to shoot a teenager with zero followup on mental health for the teacher!

      /S

      Genuinely makes me sick how many people have said this to me, that teachers just need to be armed

      • When I had two fellow teachers tell me (not at the same time, like a week apart) that they agreed and wanted their rights respected so they could carry at work, well, I figured it was about time for me to bow out of the profession.

    • @Aux@lemmy.world
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      22 years ago

      You can take a look at regulations in other countries. They work. Everywhere. There’s no need to ask questions, everything was already answered all over the world.