• @chaklun@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    Ukrainian 90s babies living through the collapse of the USSR, decade of banditry and poverty, 2 revolutions, a plague, and the largest war since WW2 before they hit 30:

  • @nonearther@lemmy.ml
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    502 years ago

    You forgot -

    • Housing crisis which makes house impossible to afford.
    • Rent crisis which makes event renting harder and gives owners freehand to increase rent however they like
    • Global job scarcity
    • Stagnation of income in sight of exploding inflation
        • @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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          Born in '83, I don’t remember anyone bothering with it too much. It was all over the news and such, sure, but I don’t recall anyone I knew caring about it all that much; both adults and children.

          I’m 40 now and living through all this crap has definitely taken a toll. I didn’t get into a house until last year, so I missed the cheap housing, and I’ve been significantly affected by most of this. I still live paycheque to paycheque, and I have no significant savings or retirement money put away.

          I have had a pretty strange experience in life though, even compared to my peers. I dropped out of HS, then after about 5 years got my highschool equivalency, went to college, did two different two year programs in about 5 years (there’s a story there too, it should have been 3-3.5 years, ended up closer to 5), got into some disappointing jobs, unemployed for a while a couple of times for nontrivial amounts of time each time… it’s been a ride. I’m fairly stable now, though my financial situation is fairly fragile. With the new recession/inflation, it’s causing some stress and worry.

          Life. Fucking life.

    • MrScottyTay
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      92 years ago

      I was born in 94 and I remember 9/11. I remember the turn of the millennium cause I remember finding it hard to write 2000 instead of 199X in my school book, but I don’t think I was aware of Y2K

    • @Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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      I’m born 94. I remember mowing lawns of the neighborhood and selling all of my pokemon cards in 2006 because my parents explain to me we were struggling. They didn’t ask me to do it. I did it on my own. Because I wanted to help.

      I didn’t need to be and adult to experience an economic crisis. And it didn’t exactly stop in 2007 either now did it?

      I remember 2001 as well. It was a very big deal.

      Y2k was nothing. Or so I was told when I asked what the fuzz is about. Since some people acted like the Mayan calendar was coming to an end.

      So I don’t see why you feel like you need to gatekeep who did and didn’t “genuinly” experience certain events. Those who knows, knows. Isn’t that enough?

        • @Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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          You say they are different. That’s true. But that doesn’t make it any less genuine or felt.

          I may have been 12 when the economy turned sour in 2006. But so what? I can Guarantee you, I felt that just as much as anyone else.

          Good for you that you were insulated from protests and strikes. I cant say I was insulated from an economy that collapsed. I didn’t lose a job. Because I didn’t have one. But that doesn’t really seem to matter at all when I was affected by it just like everyone else.

          I didn’t lose a job. But I had to eat oatmeal 3 times a day. I chose to sell my stuff and do extra work to provide some extra money to my household. Because times were rough. So tell me again how me being a kid matters?

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            Are you really arguing that having no actual responsibilities is the same as having the weight of a collapsing world on your shoulders? Having been a kid, then a teenager, and now an adult, I can’t even comprehend how someone can seriously make this argument.

            • @Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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              No. That is not what I’m arguing. Would you like to read my comment again and apply more than a kindergarten level of reading comprehension?

  • InLikeClint
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    212 years ago

    Don’t go taking all the glory of living in a doomed world. Us 80’s babies are right there with you.

    • @jballs@sh.itjust.works
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      162 years ago

      Only thing us 80s babies lucked into is that a few of us were able to buy a house before prices skyrocketed. I don’t know how anyone just starting off could even get a foot in the door in this market.

      • @Treatyoself@lemmy.world
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        I was just on the cusp of having enough of a down payment during Covid when that 2020 market crashed in big cities. I didn’t make it and now I definitely won’t be making it anytime soon. Glad you made it though.

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      But with work experience.

      Though to be fair, I don’t really remember the world pre 9/11 as a ‘91 baby, so I don’t miss my freedom

    • @whodatdair@lemm.ee
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      I visited the state I grew up in recently and had to drive a couple hours to visit someone down a highway I used to drive all the time in my teens. There used to be so many bugs that I’d have to stop and use the washers at the gas station at least once… this time there were maybe 2 or 3.

      I was like oh. oh no.

  • Fat Tony
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    202 years ago

    I mean, ever since the second world war. We have always been at risk of a third.

    • I think under 30s may have experienced the recession. Maybe not first hand in terms of job loss but I imagine the quality of life impacts on children will have been felt.

      • skulblaka
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        Tons of those folks who lost jobs had children. I didn’t know what a recession was but I do remember my mom crying a lot and then us moving from a nice house in the suburbs to an apartment in the bad side of town.

      • @TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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        -42 years ago

        I don’t think existing during a recession is experiencing it. I’m not saying current under 30s weren’t impacted by it but they weren’t participating in the job or housing market crashes.

        • RQG
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          52 years ago

          A kid born in 92 would be 16 in 2008. So they are beginning to look at the job market in many cases.

            • @bloubz@lemmygrad.ml
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              If you’re born in 94 you were 16 in 2010. I don’t know how you don’t experience a global economic crisis being 16 at the time (Don’t know why I replied to you specifically)

    • BassaForte
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      42 years ago

      I’m 29 and I definitely remember Y2K. 2008 didn’t really affect though since I was in highschool.

      • @CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world
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        12 years ago

        Yeah but like did you have to work on it for your job? Because nothing actually happened to anyone except people who fixed Y2k bugs leading up to it.

        • BassaForte
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          32 years ago

          No, but I do remember the panic. My parents were convinced that it was going to affect everything, missile systems, the whole nine-yards. They even invested in huge water tanks to put in our basement and stored years worth of food.

          Were they crazy? Absolutely. But I can still say I was somewhat affected because of the panic.

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      Im 36 but never had money, so the 1997 AFC, Y2k, 2008 rec were just newspaper headlines I saw and ignored while continuing to eat chips.

  • @_number8_@lemmy.world
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    plus i was born 96 - which feels very peculiar, i didn’t really have any 90s kid experiences or remember the 90s particularly like millennials, but i’m far too old for hyper-tiktoked gen Z identity, where the internet is fact of life and not a beloved innovation

    • @sgx@lemmy.world
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      I think 90s kids have their youth in the 00s First 10yrs aren’t quite as usefully, while mostly tethered ton your parents.

      I’m a 70s kid, and remember mostly the 80s and up. I’d like to forget the 90s, this is where I fucked up, and still pay the price for sometime

    • @Kyrinar@lemmy.world
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      Born in 95, this has also been my experience. I’m just a bit too young to fully identity with everything the Millenials talk about, but feel closer to them then Gen Z. Talking to my much-younger-than-me brothers feels like I need a translator sometimes, and our interests and perception of the internet are decidedly different.

  • @GreenMario@lemm.ee
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    112 years ago

    I’m banking on it so I don’t have a retirement fund.

    If you fuckers fix everything you better have socialized retirement in the package.

    • Hyperreality
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      Yes, that is why I don’t have a significant retirement fund. It’s all part of my plan. /s

      • @sgx@lemmy.world
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        He’s not wrong … I’m retiring in 15 years. Calculated some funds for the first 10 or so… But come 75 I’d be either dead or won some lottery …

        • Hyperreality
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          Honestly, I’ve seen what happens in care homes and hospitals, and have heard enough horror stories.

          Unless you’re lucky enough to have good kids, who are able to visit often and take care of your interests, the last decade of your life can be utterly horrible and sad.

  • @spauldo@lemmy.ml
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    112 years ago

    Don’t forget you have Y2K38 coming up. Whereas Y2K was all about mainframes and old databases, Y2K38 will be older embedded equipment. Less impact if it goes bad, but there’s no way to predict everything it’ll affect.

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      Mainframes and old databases? It was 98/99 not 88/89. I spent all my time updating Netscape navigator, Windows and Java in my IT job for a fortune 500. I’m sure someone was still running crazy old stuff, someone always is, but it was solidly the age of the internet by then. I had a cable modem by that time.

      • @spauldo@lemmy.ml
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        52 years ago

        With regards to old databases, they were used by tons of small businesses and industrial users. If a flour mill had a system written to track bulk shipments in 1992, you can bet it would still be in use in 2000. Fortune 500 companies run mostly off the shelf software and keep it up to date, but the SCADA system that runs a factory is a different story.

        As far as mainframes go, the financial and manufacturing industries still use them. Quite a bit of the infrastructure we rely on even today is written in COBOL. It’s easy to miss because the mainframe community is almost completely separate from the rest of the IT world, but it’s there and even with IBM’s push to get everyone on Java it won’t be going away any time soon.

  • pruwyben
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    I guess technically I “lived through” Y2K, in the same sense that I’ve lived through every other day of my life.