Bars are notable for staying open late, but I’m not really familiar with alternatives that might operate similarly. I think many cafés (at least around my area) tend to close a few hours earlier by comparison, which would be my go-to for an alternative otherwise, so what other options are there?
Find yourself a hackerspace. They’re collective-toolsheds of people around your community who find joy in making things, learning skills, and generally interested in helping teach others the skills that they know.
My local hackerspace, for example - has a 4 axis HAAS CNC, multiple metal lathes, TIG, MIG, Stick welders, leatherworking supplies, access to 3D printers, laser cutters, and lots of woodworking tools. We also had basically every console in existence and others bring in their game libraries for everyone to play.
They are also generally filled with college students that are burning the midnight oil quite regularly but may otherwise be somewhat solitary in their activities.
These places also will kind of locally crowd-fund new machines for people to use. They can vary wildly from space-to-space, some places being filled with old guys who are mostly into woodworking, or filled with young web-devs with no interest in welding, etc. If you are lucky enough to have multiple around your area, visit them all to see which one fits you best.
Also, membership usually includes 24/7 access to the space via controlled entry (membership keys, etc)
I help run a makerspace (hackerspace with a fluffier name). We’ve done many an all nighter. Often for no good reason, other than we got going on an interesting topic!
We are not all college aged though.
FamiLAB and MakerFX are my local ones, greetings from central FL! :)
Virginia/ Orange raise up!
Is hackerspace the common term for these? I think I’ve also seen makerspace, or at least it sounds like there’s overlap. I may have to do some more searching along these terms, but any time I’ve read of these it seems like they’re more around larger cities or university towns/cities, which I don’t happen to live in at the moment.
Hackerspace is the original term, but some places call themselves Makerspaces instead because “hacker” has a negative connotation with the common populace. A hack, in the original sense is almost equivalent to ‘redneck engineering’. It’s a non-formal environment, probably doing non-standard things…thus a hack.
They are generally found around larger cities, universities, etc – there’s not enough population otherwise to keep them running as they’re generally member-funded, and they still gotta pay things like rent.
Fablabs are similar, but corporate-owned and you’re expected to use tools and GTFO; not stick around and be social.
Interesting.
For me, Makerspace always made more sense. You go there to make something. Hacking, while not negative, always has the meaning of modifying existing things to me, which does not always apply.
I hack together an item = I merge several items into one. I hack an item = I modify an item.
Not a native speaker, so I’m unsure if that is the correct usage.I always expect to see avid golfers show up to a hackerspace and get confused….
Or horseriders :D
Or trash novel writers ;D
I like this idea. I found one in my city that’s not even that far away. I might have to check it out
I didn’t know about these and found one in my city. Thanks for the tip!
Dance clubs, comedy shows, open mic, tabletop gaming clubs.
LAN parties (showing my age).
It depends where you live, but my go-to was 24 hr cafes and other food places, but there are also other activities like late night fishing, long drives (or rides), night photography, etc
Second this, internet cafe near me is open till 4am.
But my house has WiFi and coffee and it’s basically my internet cafe with random children/wife/cat coming and going at various times. My favorite thing to do at nighttime with friends is go longboarding or biking. Shit is awesome.
As a guy who goes on group motorcycle rides and owns an electric skateboard, faccs.
There isn’t much drinking at swingers clubs. At least not in the public areas.
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Crack houses are usually open 24/7 and while you can drink alcohol there, you’re not expected to do so
Crack isn’t optional though, it’s either crack in your veins, or your neck getting cracked.
Book clubs. When I was driving a night taxi, the latest customers on workdays were book club people.
Music clubs too possibly, especially jazz.
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Yea I had the same feeling like what you’re describing.
Bowling Alleys (some), late night museum tours, late night roller skating.
They all have exposure to alcohol still. But can be enjoyed sober.
Have you considered going to a bar and drinking whatever you want?
That’s not an option for recovering alcoholic.
Depends on the person. I facilitate recovery groups, and you see a variety. some people get triggered simply by seeing a bottle, or a beer. Some have absolutely no problem
So maybe a hot take, but being at a bar to not drink alcohol is not really that fun.
In my experience it depends on the bar. I have a local that I like that is very laid back and relaxed bar scene, you still get some rowdy groups, but it’s not like fighting for the bartenders attention or blasting music. Perfectly easy to go in alone or with friends, sit down and shoot the shit for a few hours. Doesn’t really matter what’s in your glass.
No I totally understand. It wasn’t meant as the best solution. Just a suggestion. I’m not a fan of bars myself tbh
I omitted my personal reasoning in the OP to avoid sidetracking the conversation, but since it’s had some time to develop & you ask, I just personally don’t like the smell of much alcohol or the erratic behavior it causes. The former I just find unpleasant, meanwhile the latter makes me uncomfortable & anxious on top of being annoyed by the scents.
As someone being sober, I’d feel like I’m half-expected to be responsible for some of those getting drunk around me (even if I’m not, really), and it just makes it hard for me to relax as I’d like.
I could, and I may end up caving and finding a bar with an atmosphere I don’t mind, but I was hoping there might be some alternatives to spaces that I generally just find uncomfortable to be in. Also, and this just comes down to the area I’m in right now, many of the bars have a specific style/theme to them here that I don’t care for whatsoever, at least from the little bit I’ve looked around.
SPORTS
LOUD SPORTS
TVS ON EVERY SURFACE AT TOP VOLUME
TUNED TO MULTIPLE CHANNELS SO NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE THERE ARE ALWAYS COMMERCIALS ASSAULTING YOUR SENSES FROM AT LEAST TWO DIRECTIONSYou’re going to the wrong bars. All the bars around me have the TVs on but they’re muted and none of them show commercials.
I don’t go to bars. I strongly resent that my hometown pushed out the cozy local coffee pub that sat at the core of the city’s culture in favor of yet another chain sportsbar when it already has so many of those.
Yeah. Most of the bars I go to don’t even have TVs. There are a bunch of shelves with board games.
There’s a few of those in the city I live in, they’re great.
That’s 100% understandable. I don’t really “get” bars. So I don’t go. I don’t know what to do there. If I want to go out at night, I go to clubs, but they have some of the same issues with drunk people. Aside from that, I have hobbies to share with like-minded people. For example I go to an open couple dancing (Forró) event as often as I can.
We have a sandwich shop that runs 24 hrs from Tuesday morning until Saturday night. I’ve picked up late night supper there and seen people playing cards, etc and just generally hanging out for long stretches.
When I was younger my buddies and I went to a 24 hr diner and played magic into the wee hrs, occasionally leaving only when the earliest breakfast crowd started to roll in.
I hope you tipped well, lol. my tabletop RPG group may have been known to do this. the waitress kept us up on coffee, so yeah, we might have tipped for the time rather than the percentage of the bill. probably the only reason we never got kicked out.
I had a group like this when I was the graveyard shift at Denny’s. I’d get them three apps for eight people, slap down two liter jugs of coke, and they’d collectively leave me about twenty bucks for basically no work on my part. Nice kids, they were usually in there once a week and they always called ahead to make sure it was okay.
They played Vampire: Masquerade, which honestly seems like a depressing setting but they were into it.
heh. we were at perkins, and we mostly played stardrifter there. We would have been okay if that’s about all that happened, but they actually kept us in coffee and creamer, and happily brought out the snackage when we asked. The tips were well worth the service.
Re: Vampire. It can be, but doesn’t need to. It’s set in the real world, so it’s as depressing or not as our world can be.
Pre covid we had a game group we found on meetup. We’d go on Wednesdays to Fuddruckers, buy an appetizer and some drinks and then just rove from table to table and play what game seemed good. Made some neat casual friends that way. Our group would rent out the back room every week. Post covid we couldn’t afford the appetizer (went back to school for a better job. Poverty yay!) so our game nights have been at home.
It really depends where you are - some places have a lively late night culture, others not so much.
All night diners, 24 hour fast food places are really the only alternatives here (though you could count movie theatres with late showings, I guess).
But (unless you have personal reasons for not being around alcohol and drinkers), you can totally go to a bar with a vibe you like and just hang out drinking soda. Bonus points if that bar has something cool available aside from just booze (barcades, live music venues, etc.).
If you’re not looking to specifically be around people, you could also just check out some green space outdoors, but keep your wits about you and use your judgement - some places are lovely to chill at 3:00 am, some would be if it wasn’t for the sketchy folks shooting up.
Echoing the outside thing. I love to sit on a deck chatting with friends on a warm summer night. There are some biking trails with minimal street crossings nearby that make for a great late night stress-relief ride with or without a friend. I have met a lot of snowboard/stoner/skater bros late at night on trails. Find an abandoned bridge or other public infrastructure and watch the stars while munching on some 24h takeout.
Hanging out at your friend’s place with some board-games or movies. (cheaper too!)
Until you really get into board games too haha
Ain’t that the truth!
Several of my friends in my mid 20s didn’t drink, so we usually would hang out at hookah bars. They are great, especially if they are allowed to serve food where you live. Most at least serve tea and other non-alcoholic beverages. I can give you a few pointers for first-timers if you are interested.
In Canada we call that Tim Hortons
McDonald’s is this Canadian’s choice. Better coffee.
Both are still pretty terrible coffee compared to any cafe though.
Not any, but yeah any cafe actually doing specialty coffee and not just expensive garbage is tons better than both.
I live in an area with a lot of muslim people, as they don’t drink they often go to Shisha bars or Dessert bars. There’s also a few tea house type places, fancy dark late night places that do posh teas.
You can check out https://soberbarsnearme.com
Thanks!
heh. I checked my city of 100,000. Nada. Next town over. They’ve got 60,000. Zilch. Next town over. 20,000. Nope. I went the other direction. 120,000. Nah. 125,000. Null. 450,000 folk in my county and not one ping on that map. I know there are mocktails served just about everywhere I go. I’ll try to flesh out the map because it looks like it’s just got Portland and LA on my coast. I just make it to bars like once or twice a quarter.
That’s unfortunate but not terribly surprising.
Humans will build a bar as soon as there are more than two people that want to drink but you typically need much larger populations before you get a sober community at all. You usually only get dedicated sober spaces when those communities get big enough.
Fortunately, as many others on this thread have pointed out, there are many sober options beyond dedicated sober spaces.
