Odd hill to die on.
That the best kind!
To be fair cantaloupe and prosciutto is way better than pineapple on pizza has ever been (this is not opinion this is fact)
Crusades have been launched over pettier disagreements.
He was just a fucking kid!
This underlines my biggest issue with italian cuisine. There are so many chefs that leave no room for innovation or updates to a traditional recipies. I’ll put cream in my carbonara and pineapple on my pizza because I like the taste of it. And those preferences should be more important than the old traditions when it comes to making foods I want to enjoy.
It’s all good, just as long as you don’t break your spaghetti before putting it in the pot…
Funny as this is, the guy is def both stupid and an asshole
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And Italy also invented fascism, so I’m not sure I’ll follow their judgement on pineapples…
Personally, I wouldn’t care what a customer ordered on their pizza, they could order the worst possible combination of flavours, and I’d happily make it for them, what’s the big deal? It wouldn’t hurt me, or anyone else.
Kitchen serves Caesar salad that was created 100 years ago in Tijuana by Italian immigrant Caesar Cardini when his hotel restaurant was short on ingredients.
It also serves “Kilpatrick”, which is oysters served with “Grilled finely chopped bacon with Worcestershire, BBQ, Dijon, ketchup, Tabasco, lemon juice and smoked paprika”.
Precursors to pizza used things like dates and other fruits as toppings.
The menu has meat all over it, which to me reads more like an Italian-American thing where meat over here was super cheap and thus became increasingly incorporated into Italian dishes.
And of course modern pizza uses a key ingredient not even available until it was brought back from the New World.
But sure, this is a step too far and an affront to his culture.
Wait until this guy hears how many pizzarias are run by Greek folks, rather than Italians. His heart will explode, I’m sure.
“Greeks are Turks that think they are Italians.”
Where I live: the Italian restaurants are run by Greeks, the Greek restaurants are run by Serbians, the Turkish restaurants are run by Indians, and the Indian restaurants are run by Turks. It’s like nobody wanted to sell their own food lol
There is literally a traditional Neapolitan pizza with figs and cheese on it.
Yeah, but that’s not pineapple. Pineapple is just wrong.
Italians: “You can’t put fruit on pizza!!1!”
Tomatoes: -_-
Tomatoes aren’t Italian.
Tomatoes are fruit, yes. Botanically.
Here is a list of botanical fruits: tomato, cucumber, zucchini, yellow squash, acorn squash, butternut squash, pumpkin, eggplant, bell pepper, jalapeno pepper, habanero pepper, poblano pepper, cayenne pepper, serrano pepper, banana pepper, avocado, olive
Tomato is botanically a fruit, and culinarily a vegetable. Vegetables are not a botanical classification. Botanical classifications are often surprising - a strawberry is not a botanical berry, for example, but culinarily it is.
They are not precursors but a family of flat, oven fired dough, with toppings. It’s a whole culinary style in the Mediterranean basin.
It’s essentially like saying that Texans get to decide what people put on a barbeque.
And of course modern pizza uses a key ingredient not even available until it was brought back from the New World.
Still has nothing to do with the United States. The tomato was introduced to Europe centuries before that country even existed. So I don’t really get what the point of this statement is. Every Italian dish needs to be from before 1500 to be authentic?
The point is that you don’t have a monopoly on defining what food is it isn’t “real” pizza, and old world cuisine very frequently isn’t actually as old as they claim it be. In many cases “new world” food has an even longer history than old world food, especially in South and Central America
The ruling also detailed an incident at work in April this year where Tamburella fractured bones in his right hand when he struck a metal hand rail.
Forget the pineapple - dude has anger issues and shouldn’t be running a kitchen.
Pizza is not really Italian. A lot of cultures have invented flatbread that you top with stuff before baking. It just happens that the Italian version of that got spread around widely. And then other cultures added their own flairs, one of which is pineapple, usually connected with a salty pork product like ham or Canadian bacon.
Here in California, that’s called Hawaiian style pizza, and I didn’t get it, myself, until I tried it and found it’s a pairing that works, usually with extra mozzarella cheese.
I don’t know that it’s actually Hawaiian even in style, though my wife’s family used to like going to Hawaiian-style fast food, which involves a lot of Spam (the Hormell kind), so there… may be a connection?
My parents’ generation, in the 1970s way dug anchovies on pizza which I found way too salty. I didn’t get it then, but I don’t see much in the way of anchovies on pizza now. So collective tastes may change with time.
My parents’ generation, in the 1970s way dug anchovies on pizza which I found way too salty. I didn’t get it then, but I don’t see much in the way of anchovies on pizza now. So collective tastes may change with time.
That makes me kinda sad. I’m definitely nowhere near that generation but I love anchovies on pizza, and people not ordering anchovies on pizza just makes it harder to find places that still offer anchovies. I think it’s the best pizza topping. Although I also don’t mind Hawaiian style pizza separately either.
Anchovies are spectacular sources of umami. I use them in tomato sauces, among other things. You don’t taste the fish at all, you just get a nice round salty flavor out of them, and they just dissolve in the sauce.
It’s weird. I’m at an age where I wouldn’t mind to try out anchovies on pizza, but it’s become so out-of-style that either pizza places don’t carry it any more, or people are so repulsed by it that it’s hard to order with others sharing.
Meanwhile, I’ve always loved pineapple on pizza, and that one seemed to have stuck around as a topping longer.
Anchovies work. Try with just tomato sauce and cheese, onions and olives. It’s a complex, mature type of taste. Maybe sun dried tomatoes. But it depends a lot on who’s cooking it if you know what I mean.
You know how kids all go crazy about candy? That’s because of how their taste buds work when they’re kids. When you get older, these funky tastes get more like candy to us. Very rich flavors.
Anchovies on pizza are fantastic, especially in some Italian thin crust, say with black olives, onions, capers, artichoke…
The problem is that people use them as an ingredient, where they should be used as a seasoning, sparingly.
Then don’t work for the fucking restaurant that sells pineapples on pizza.
None of this is that difficult.
I mean, you aren’t eating it though, and NGL pineapple on pizza is fantastic, especially with some bacon and onion.
If I’m a sculpter and get a commission, I don’t really care what they want me to make. It’s their property, my paycheck
Jalapeno, pepperoni and pineapple is fire. If you can get dried or candied pineapple it’s better than canned on a pizza. Drying it out first gives it a chance to take on a bit of char and it’s genuinely delightful.
I think the prevalence of canned pineapple is a big part of the problem. Most canned stuff just isn’t all that good on pizza.
Dickbutt. I want a 12 foot tall granite Dickbutt to drop in my Wyoming property. I want alien archeologists to discover it thousands of years from now and proceed to spend decades debating it.
Pineapple salsa with cilantro, peppers. Onion, too, is amazing
I hate pineapple pizza but this chef missed what cooking is about: satisfaction. And if pineapple pizza satisfies someone out there, it’s the chef’s duty to do it.
Its just a job. You dont have to fuck the pineapples, just work with them.
I take two giant pineapple rings and sandwich a piece of pizza in between and eat it like a juicy sandwich.
Fucking pineapples is both challenging and painful. I’d rather have it on a pizza. Only just, though.
That’s only with fresh pineapple though. If they’re from a can they have conveniently placed holes
He’s an idiot, it’s delicious.
“But-a, de pine-a apple ees not endemic to eetalia!”
Yeah and neither is the tomato, spaghetti slurper. Get good.
Yep, tomatoes and potatoes. And almost every single bean.
TIL, thank you. Although lentils and garbanzos excluded.
There were plenty of beans they had access to.
