Last week, Google’s Finland country manager, Antti Järvinen, apologised for the forest clearings but claimed the company had acted “on the best understanding we had of the legislation at the time”.
That understanding being “it’s more profitable to just do it and pay the fine”
Process the fine for each tree individually. And of course they can’t do anything with the land until the whole thing is processed.
So do something.
Yes, please. Fellow Europeans do something. It’s so easy. /s
almost as easy as rebelling against an orange shitstain.
All because normies can’t take it upon themselves to do any research and change search engines and stop using google products…we gave them this power.
I hate people.
Individual action as a way to effect change or “voting with your dollar” is a myth that these large corporations benefit from. Sure, we should stop using their services, but you’re never going to convince people to individually give things up in the hundreds of millions.
You gotta force legislators into actually doing their jobs, and failing that, burn down the fucking data centers.
While I agree, its apathy and stupidity that led us to this point. Big tech would have nowhere near this much power if every single person didnt willingly hand out all of their data at every turn and use every big tech product that was advertised to them.
Big tech would have nowhere near this much power if every single person didnt willingly hand out all of their data at every turn and use every big tech product that was advertised to them.
Sure they would. They don’t need every single person, they just need a lot. Most people are apathetic and stupid, this kind of hypothetical doesn’t really get us anywhere. If your mechanism for change doesn’t work when most people are apathetic and stupid, it isn’t going to work.
I mean the issue is the stupid people. As always. The crazy thing is its never before in The history of humanity been easier to learn all there is to possibly know, and we still have dumbasses running around. Like, how.
It’s never been easier to disseminate propaganda and misinformation. Billionaires own the media companies and the digital infrastructure.
Good point. However…dont people know this and take it upon themselves to be wary of media thats owned by billionaires and Instead find independent real journalism and actual news and/or talk to actual people? No, just me ? OK then. This is why the world is on track to pure fascism.
You are wildly overestimating the media literacy of the average person.
Collective misbehavior requires collective correction.
Lol blame people while a whole government does fucking nothing but be concerned.
Well yeah but the people elected the government…but yes theyre all corrupt so it doesnt matter much.
It is capitalism that got us corporations and data centers. nobody voted to live under capitalism, and the last time people tried to do anything else we had a civil war over it. blaming the actions of a government and the completely undemocratic system it derives its power from on the people it governs is stupid. you should blame those in power, the politicians and their capitalist overlords, instead of the people who mostly have no say in what their government decides to do to them.
I’m doing my part.
Even made a video to help people get away from Google search.
(TLDW: If you’re stuck using Google, switch to udm14.com. For a good commercial search alternative, use Mojeek. For a non-commercial search alternative, try Marginalia Search.)
Wonderful! Nice work!
I’ve been using DDG.
I read about the displaced wildlife. This is really horrific. Their government should ban Google from the country, take back their land and make them pay to reforest. Fuck Google. I was a little complacent with my Gmail but I’m done. This is just fucking awful. In this state of global warming these assholes ripped up a whole forest. Fuck them.
There should be criminal investigations over that and prosecution of Google employees or their contractors, whoever was operating in Finland (and someone had to). If that was indeed all legal, than laws need to be changed.
'See when you’re rich, they let you do it".
Each tree is priceless, and the forest is more than the sum of its parts.
Expropriate Google’s assets to make up for some of the loss.
Ban them for a year and fine them for triple what is a fair penalty.
Otherwise it’s a business expense
I bet their politicians allow it to happen.
The government knew this was coming when they approved the data center. This is purely theatrical outrage. Those Representatives have been bought and paid for.
It’s only illegal if you do something about it.
Fuck you Pichai, you fucking banchode.
So then remove the data center once it’s built. Tit for tat.
Or not allow it to be built in the first place.
Well Finland you do want to keep making anti-Russia hysterical propaganda, yes? AI is the way these days.
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Open to hearing your thoughts, but I think what you might be seeing is a combination of
- people who don’t like the politics on Reddit are more likely to be here
- Canadians who are angry at the current american administration (and likely historic actions as well), are more likely to oppose the US and policies/entities associated with the US
- our instances make up a larger part of the threadiverse
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Again, open to hearing your thoughts on this. It sounds like you think there’s something we should be doing differently
can we talk about the amount of trolls on the lemmy.ca and piefed.ca instances?
We’ve banned plenty of troll-like accounts and are actively working on updated guidelines. Now is a good time to point out issues
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