It depends on who you ask.
Trump claims that prices aren’t actually that high (lie) and also that they’re lower than under Biden (lie) and also that the prices are worth it to keep a nuke out of Iran’s hands (lie because he’s the one who terminated the deal in his first term that was doing exactly that).
Vance claims that the racist scapegoating of brown immigrants was him misspeaking (lie) and that he’ll aim to do better (lie because he immediately did it some more right after that).
Others have lied that “illegal” (undocumented) immigrants are siphoning things like welfare, food stamps, and other assistance programs from Americans. But you need a social security number to claim those things, which is how you know it’s a fucking lie. They’ll also lie about them stealing good jobs, but the jobs they’re working are the shitty jobs, and them being underpaid is both something that their employers are doing to exploit vulnerable people and also how prices on things like produce and textiles has been so relatively cheap until now, since they’ve chased so much of the labor force out.
I don’t understand any argument for how immigrants could be causing higher prices. It would only make sense if we were seeing a scarcity, but the only one I can think of off the top of my head is petroleum products, caused by this stupid illegal war, which hasn’t even begun to cause the insane high prices on everything else yet due to the shipping industries depending so heavily on diesel. It will really take off right after the blue wave, and chuds will blame dems despite not even being sworn in yet. It’s as predictable as the scary “caravan” heading to the border right before the election.
there is a grain of truth to the “immigrants stealing good jobs” lie, quite a few buisnesses were preferentially hiring foreign workers because they could pay them less including iirc TSMC and other big tech companies
Sadly true. And yet, they go after the immigrants and not the business owners for some strange reason…
And if you’re a complete sociopath, the ‘less brown people will fix things’ makes a bit of sense too. Less people means less competition for jobs, so more good jobs and higher wages since there would be fewer employees to go around. (This is also why they also want women out of the workforce.)
That’s basically all the racists want, is everything in the country for themselves and their little groups. It’s the dark side of tribalism.
Right, which just makes them easy to stuff under the label of ‘other tribe’. And ‘other tribe’ must be run out of town at any cost. Even if they aren’t in your town to begin with.
That’s less “immigrants stealing good jobs” though and more “employers violating labor laws and exploiting vulnerable people” like I was saying. Sure, the effect is the same, but instead of rounding up brown people, maybe we could try enforcing the laws and arresting business owners for knowingly breaking the laws. That would also send a message that it’s not worth the risk to try to hire illegally.
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It depends on who you ask.
Trump claims that prices aren’t actually that high (lie) and also that they’re lower than under Biden (lie) and also that the prices are worth it to keep a nuke out of Iran’s hands (lie because he’s the one who terminated the deal in his first term that was doing exactly that).
Vance claims that the racist scapegoating of brown immigrants was him misspeaking (lie) and that he’ll aim to do better (lie because he immediately did it some more right after that).
Others have lied that “illegal” (undocumented) immigrants are siphoning things like welfare, food stamps, and other assistance programs from Americans. But you need a social security number to claim those things, which is how you know it’s a fucking lie. They’ll also lie about them stealing good jobs, but the jobs they’re working are the shitty jobs, and them being underpaid is both something that their employers are doing to exploit vulnerable people and also how prices on things like produce and textiles has been so relatively cheap until now, since they’ve chased so much of the labor force out.
I don’t understand any argument for how immigrants could be causing higher prices. It would only make sense if we were seeing a scarcity, but the only one I can think of off the top of my head is petroleum products, caused by this stupid illegal war, which hasn’t even begun to cause the insane high prices on everything else yet due to the shipping industries depending so heavily on diesel. It will really take off right after the blue wave, and chuds will blame dems despite not even being sworn in yet. It’s as predictable as the scary “caravan” heading to the border right before the election.
there is a grain of truth to the “immigrants stealing good jobs” lie, quite a few buisnesses were preferentially hiring foreign workers because they could pay them less including iirc TSMC and other big tech companies
Sadly true. And yet, they go after the immigrants and not the business owners for some strange reason…
And if you’re a complete sociopath, the ‘less brown people will fix things’ makes a bit of sense too. Less people means less competition for jobs, so more good jobs and higher wages since there would be fewer employees to go around. (This is also why they also want women out of the workforce.)
That’s basically all the racists want, is everything in the country for themselves and their little groups. It’s the dark side of tribalism.
you are more likely to know a buisness owner than an immigrant if you live in a rural town far from the border (or know that you know one anyway)
Right, which just makes them easy to stuff under the label of ‘other tribe’. And ‘other tribe’ must be run out of town at any cost. Even if they aren’t in your town to begin with.
That’s less “immigrants stealing good jobs” though and more “employers violating labor laws and exploiting vulnerable people” like I was saying. Sure, the effect is the same, but instead of rounding up brown people, maybe we could try enforcing the laws and arresting business owners for knowingly breaking the laws. That would also send a message that it’s not worth the risk to try to hire illegally.