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3 Panel Comic

Panel 1: James sits clutching a mug nervously as he listens to a conversation he’s afraid of. He stares at something off screen. Near by, a woman and smartly dressed man talk movies over their drinks. The woman nods along.

Man: I’d say probably the best filmmaking I’ve ever seen, has been ‘The Sacrifice’ by Tarkovsky

Woman: Mmhmm

Panel 2: James is pulled from whatever holds his attention as he’s dragged into the conversation.

Man: What about you James? What would you say is the best film you have ever seen?

James: Huh?

Panel 3: James turns back towards the window he’s been watching as he feeds the man an expected answer.

James: Ah! Uhm y’know… ‘Mulholland Drive’, maybe ‘Vertigo’

Outside the window, the movie ‘Step Brothers’ bangs on the glass demanding to be acknowledged. knock knock knock

  • Psythik@lemmy.world
    3·
    2 hours ago

    Can someone please explain why people llke Step Brothers so much?

    The movie is literally about two NEETs being as insufferable as possible. Where is the comedy in that?

    • Notyou@sopuli.xyz
      2·
      1 hour ago

      I wasn’t a big fan but I watched it in front of others and they really liked the ‘putting my balls on your drum set’ part.

  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
    361·
    1 day ago

    Whenever someone asks me what I think is the best movie I just say Robocop.

    Some people will will be disdainful. These are people I’m not interested in talking about movies with because they equate pretentiousness with quality. These are boring people to have a conversation with.

    Some people will be like “Fuck yeah! Robocop! Dead or alive you’re coming with me! I’ll buy that for a dollar!” These people don’t care about getting any kind of deeper meaning from a movie, but that’s cool. It’s fun to talk about cool action scenes in movies.

    Then there are people who are actually capable of understanding the subtext and are willing to look for meaning in a movie that from appearances is just a dumb 80s action movie. These are the people that you can have interesting conversations about movies with.

    • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
      7·
      8 hours ago

      I do this for Starship Troopers since it’s both a masterclass in parody but also works as a solid idiot filter. Though there is always the chance for it to devolve into two largely intelligent people devolving into a weird mashup of Earth Defense Force, Helldivers, 40k, and Starship Troopers memes.

      Also go watch the sequels, they get increasingly weird and eventually devolve into weirdly horny 3d anime. Also read the book and then read any of Heinleins other books, the dude was a competent author and just kinda liked playing around with weird ideas like psychic sex cults and obviously fascistic protagonists.

      I said devolve way too many times.

    • spirinolas@lemmy.world
      3·
      11 hours ago

      Robocop is a great movie and far from bring a dumb action movie. Behind its appearance it’s actually a very deep and layered movie Even Paul Verhoeven couldn’t see it when he first saw the script until he actually read it carefully. The title and the main concept are subtly satirical and it’s not apparent until you actually watch it. When I say it is one of my favorites to movie people, they always look at me funny. Unless they actually saw it.

      My favorite movie IS actually Mulholland Drive but I never say it to anyone because I’m always afraid people will think I’m a pretentious dick trying to look smart. This post doesn’t help XD

      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
        5·
        6 hours ago

        Yeah, Blade Runner was great for the atmosphere, but it didn’t really emphasize PKD’s overall message about empathy. Robocop came out of that, it was about underlining that message. And yeah it’s about a corporation literally taking away a person’s humanity, but also removing humanity from society in general.

        The US is at war with Mexico in Robocop, but nobody even cares. There’s one line where a cop says “Damn! They bombed Acapulco!” the other cop says “So what?”, and the first cop says “I booked my vacation there, I gotta call my travel agent!”

        It’s a world where there’s virtually no empathy left, and turning a human into a robot is representative of what corporate culture is doing to people.

        Alex Murphy is able to recover some of his humanity, but he doesn’t fully escape from the system. He is still limited by the corporation’s directives at the end of the movie, but he does have his identity as Alex Murphy in the end, so that’s good I guess? It doesn’t hold your hand about this, it’s a smash cut to the end credits. It’s just like “you figure it out!”

    • Akasazh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      12 hours ago

      I’d just be suspicious of they idolized any of the sequels. They were tacked on and not nearly as well written as the first one.

      Was the first one a critique on the praxis of computerized sentinels and the morality behind that, the sequels where more of a celebration of the cool shooty cyber cowboy.

    • wia@lemmy.ca
      4·
      5 hours ago

      I always give 2 movies.

      Fifth Element as my personal favorite that everyone should see and holds up.

      North by Northwest as my “Film” of choice.

      That way I can still hold a conversation no matter what anyone wants to go on about. Plus it lets me push for someone to broaden their horizons no matter where they fall on the spectrum of movie nerd.

      • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        5 hours ago

        West by Northwest

        I’m assuming this is supposed to be Hitchcock’s North by Northwest, or is this a parody that I’m unaware of?

        • wia@lemmy.ca
          1·
          5 hours ago

          Ahahhaha it is. I was not awake when I wrote that lol!

          Fixed it.

      • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        18 hours ago

        If they don’t respect The Fifth Element as the iconic masterpiece that it is, I don’t want to hold a conversation with them anyway.

        • wia@lemmy.ca
          1·
          8 hours ago

          Agreed haha.

          I don’t think anyone ever has, but I am meeting more and more people who don’t know what it is

      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
        3·
        21 hours ago

        The Fifth Element is a movie that in theory I should hate, but I actually love it. The title refers to love and the romance plot doesn’t work for me at all. They do an overly clever thing where the villain and the hero never meet (and kinda rub it in your face about it) and normally I hate it when movies are overly clever in that way. And Chris Tucker is annoying as hell.

        But somehow that doesn’t matter because it’s so over the top about everything. The action, the costumes, the dialog, the visuals are all so over the top the stuff that normally would make me not like a movie doesn’t really matter.

        The overall meaning works even if the execution on the romance plotline falls flat for me. Gary Oldman and Bruce Willis not having any kind of confrontation is fine, since it’s kinda how things work with billionaires. You oppose them without ever meeting them. Corbin Dallas is a man of action and Zorg is a man that’s all about money, so they’re from different worlds so it makes sense they never actually meet. And everything being weird as hell works because it’s the future, things should be weird and unfamiliar. Chris Tucker is somehow the same kind of annoying as social media influencers are today, so even that works.

        So the Fifth Element is a movie that is terrible on paper, but somehow everything fits together so well that it’s actually great.

        • wia@lemmy.ca
          1·
          8 hours ago

          Perfectly summarized. It’s so weird and really shouldn’t hold up, but actually it just causes it to be a masterpiece.

          It’s just a constant good time.

      • Kaput@lemmy.world
        1·
        22 hours ago

        Here a weaponized film suggestion for “i need deep meaning” snobs. Dancer in the dark. It sucks the joy dry out of you and is a masterpiece.

    • Hobo@lemmy.world
      4·
      1 day ago

      The sunscreen commercial is possibly one of the most dystopian things I’ve ever seen in a movie. That might’ve been in Robocop 2 though. Still both films are legitimately two of the best dystopian sci-fi films out there.

  • Leviathan@lemmy.world
    3·
    21 hours ago

    Step Brothers was alright and it was good for a little referencing but it never made me feel the things that 12 Angry Men, Rear Window or Jaws has.

      • insanemantis@lemmy.world
        1·
        8 hours ago

        Some of them! Unfortunately I moved, and had to put my boxed set in storage, and I can’t get to it because it’s lumped in with all of my family’s stuff, probably buried which is really annoying and makes me wanna just repurchase them at this point

        I did get as far as past the section that the movie was based on, definitely didn’t expect the Tolmekians Torumekians to be just the knights, with no chickenhead soldiers or birdface tank guys, with the chickenheads originally being wormhandlers. That is one thing that I prefer about the movie since the chickenhead helmet bears a striking resemblance to the giant warrior, which is a nice parallel to the monster that they aspire to use

        Edit: just realized that you can actually see the birdies in some panels like here

      • insanemantis@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 day ago

        I think that the soundtrack, the designs, and ultimately just growing up with it, are what make me partial to it

        • Daftydux@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          2·
          8 hours ago

          Nausica is the superior film imo, both are trying for different things. One is a coming of age story that is post societal upheaval. The other is an adventure into the unknown that is pre societal upheaval.

          Castle in the sky really combines both.

          • insanemantis@lemmy.world
            2·
            8 hours ago

            I think that’s what makes it so good. It gives you hope that we will find peace in this huge barren land where mercy wins in the end

      • schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        1 day ago

        I remember it being solid and fun and very much of itself, that is to say it didn’t smack of seniors executives trying to normalize everything… but I think the praise is more a criticism directed at the blockbuster movie industry.

        • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          1 day ago

          I mean I watched it, and it was decent. I’m sure it was refreshingly good if you’re a parent watching a lot of kids’ movies. There have certainly been some masterpieces marketed as kids’ movies, and I might have had high expectations, but the praise seems disproportionate to the film.

    • Agent641@lemmy.world
      1·
      8 hours ago

      The part where he shows his medallion to the temple guard like he’s flashing his ID to the bouncer at a club is chefs kiss

      • Kaput@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 day ago

        The white castle scene would have gone gory. Now thinking of it, the basketball game, and the washroom that would have been brutal.

    • Hobo@lemmy.world
      4·
      1 day ago

      Conan the Destroyer was a good flick too. The scene where they’re walking into town and Conan warns Malak not to steal and he’s like, “I know when to steal (swipes some jewelry) and when not to.” Is just a fantastic setup/punchline.

  • InputZero@lemmy.world
    1·
    1 day ago

    I don’t know what my answer would be but it would need to be S class in being both artistic and entertaining. Like The Boy in The Striped Pajamas is S class artistic, B class entertaining. Avengers End Game is B class artistic and S class entertaining. I don’t know what movie would be an S class in both.

    Well I can think of animated movies pretty easily, The Wild Robot, Spirted Away, and Akira comes to mind immediately. As for live action movies, that’s tougher.