• KrysTheVillainess@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 hours ago

    Idk why anyone would be stanning for Russia of the modern day, theres no socialism or communism to be found there after the fall of the USSR… (not that the USSR was the most progressive place to begin with but eh)

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    15 hours ago

    but no one believed that it was russian bots all along back when they were wrecking havoc over every other election across Europe and US…

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      15 hours ago

      As an American, I assure you there was no foreign interference needed in making my neighbors awful people.

      I hardly think that’s different for Europeans.

      You seriously think it’s Russia “wreaking havoc” across the world? We may live in the same country, but a different planet.

      Even most Americans admit that’s not true .

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          4 hours ago

          He’s not wrong but is purposely missing all the instances of Russia and China selling vast amounts of weaponary as well for their proxy conflicts. So he’s misleading entirely with this ommission and and denial of it.

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                  3 hours ago

                  Are the liberals in the room right now or just leftists who hate all imperialist countries? I know it’s hard to think with all that state run media in your head but I know you can do it.

                  Edit: So was your .ml accounts banned and this is you getting around a ban evasion?

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        10 hours ago

        They were already angry and bigoted. The troll farms were for directing and amplify that bigotry.

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          So shitposting $30k on Facebook “hacked” the 2016 election? Come on. That’s tears in the rain of what very domestic bigot amplifiers spent, and half of it was Bernie stuff.

          Stop looking for foreign boogiemen for problems capitalism caused.

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            4 hours ago

            It’s all interconnected. Domestic capitalists? Foreign capitalists? They’re all the same because they don’t view themselves as nations of any nation. They’re allegiance is only to themselves and use each other as opportunities. They can only trust each other when they have backmail on each other, which is the real main purpose of Epstein’s parties are for.

            Zuck allowing foreign propaganda on his platform is not because he believes in Putin’s cause, but because he might want a favor from Putin or Russia in the future. To him, it’s a capitalist investment.

            There’s plenty of examples in history of opportunists tweaking the news to rile up bigotry for a profit. History never stopped happening.

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                Also, I called them the Epstein class. Epstein might have been involved, but there’s probably hundreds or thousands of spooks would are doing shit. Epstein himself stands apart because he was sloppy.

                Spies and spooks don’t do it out of a sense of loyalty or professionalism. They like doing it. Even if Mossad or the CIA were completely aligned against Russia, that doesn’t stop their assets from fucking around.

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                  The Epstein Files showed that Epstein was trying to destroy Trump at this point. He was found to have been texting his bought Virgin Islands rep during the Cohen testimony to help attack Trump.

                  This only shows he was trying to help Putin AGAINST Trump, and only through Norway because he DID NOT have contacts in Russia.

                  Norway is indicted here, not Russia. Seems their Princess was a former child sex slave who still adores Epstein.

                  Did you read past the headlines?

    • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.world
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      15 hours ago

      At least we have elections. Ukrainians don’t. All opposition parties have been banned. All opposition media has been seized by the government. Men have to dress as old ladies in public so they don’t get kidnapped and pressganged ICE style.

      Victory or death.

      And why?

      👀👇

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        12 hours ago

        You’ll get one comment out of me just so others see reasonable push back to your bad faith argument, afterwards I will no longer engage.

        1. All democratic countries I know, have provisions in their constitutions suspending democratic processes, centralizing power in the executive and conscripting their unfortunate male population in the event of an invasion of the country.

        2. It is a frankly ludicrous idea to suggest that this war is somehow ongoing because “we” want Russia’s natural resources.

        Russia started this. Russia can end it any day by stopping the bombardment and withdrawing their troops from within the borders of Ukraine, at least to the status quo before its 2022 invasion.

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          15 hours ago

          I don’t need a data center to see capitalist greed and Weatern imperialism.

          The RAND Corporation wrote a whitepaper that basically translates to “how to destroy Russia and take all their shit”.

          The unfortunate Arctic thaw is opening up vast troves of natural resources and corporations and billionaires want them. This is why Trump has such a hardon for Canada and Greenland.

          Do you ever wonder why all pipelines lead to Europe?

          Why would Russia do that? /S

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        9 hours ago

        We were paying for Russia’s natural resources before they started the war. How is this situation any better for them or us?

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          The war started after we bankrolled the 2014 coup.

          War only benefits a small handful of very powerful people, but Russia is sure doing better than America or Europe.

          Ukrainians’ grandchildren’s grandchildren will still be paying off generational debt from predatory IMF and military loans. Blackrock has privatized all of Ukraine’s public institutions. They’re all neofeudal capitalist serfs now. They can’t vote. Men can’t even leave to escape this death cult. It’s definitely worse for them.

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    12 hours ago

    Idk why that wasn’t target number 1. They would’ve received a lot more global military support if they just blew up all those data centers before anything else.

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      I’d imagine that - similar to the oil and infrastructure targets they’re also hitting in the last 6mo - it has taken awhile to get the technology and personnel into locations where they could actually hit them.

      Russia is a big country, which means that getting in far enough to hit the “good stuff” isn’t easy, but it also means that protecting it all now that Ukraine has made inroads is also going to be difficult.

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    The BothSidesBad comments have dropped by 70%, even in the thread about how much of a cunt Gavin Newsom is.

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      15 hours ago

      Both-sides including Nazis is bad. Right? Right? Right?

      “When you sit with eleven Nazis, there are a dozen Nazis.”

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        14 hours ago

        Posts picture of several Nazis. Implies entire country is full of Nazis.

        You do understand that Putin is a violent, fascist imperialist, don’t you?

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          You do realize that there are entire batallions of Nazis in Ukraine that kidnap civilians off the street and force them to die on the front line, right? Azov batallion?

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            You do realize that Russians are kidnapping Ukrainian children? That they are raping and murdering innocent civilians?

            It is telling that posters like you condemn American and Ukrainian Nazis, but stay silent on Russian evils.

            For the record, I think all Nazis/fascists/jmperialists should at least be in prison. And I mean ALL of them, not just from a specific country.

            Tell me, how do personally view Putin?

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              My country isn’t sending bombs to Russian Nazi leaders? That’s why I’m critical of Ukraine? Are you 12?

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            Right? Every nation has a small minority of fascists. The fact that this small minority took power in a U.S backed coup is sorta the entire problem.

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    .ML users left in shambles.

    You know, if they could still access lemmy in general.

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      Real. I joined it cuz it said it was FOSS focused and run by the creators of Lemmy which I thought was neat. Did not realize it was a tankie cesspool. I’m now banned from a good portion of it for “Nazi apologia” because I said calling Ukraine Nazis was Russian propaganda

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        You may be new enough not to have encountered this yet but our instance has a well earned reputation of being Soviet boot lickers. Be careful on .ml meme subs and stuff, you’ll catch a permaban for saying anything pro Ukraine or in any way interpretable as anti Russia

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            Do we? You might be overestimating your impact as a person, or I maybe I only pay attention to the usernames of people who make a big positive difference on my flavor of the fediverse!

            All the same, brand new accounts are fishy as fuck, especially with 0 posts. Try creating, not just critiquing!