• LocalAreaMan@lemmy.world
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    As an American, I assure you there was no foreign interference needed in making my neighbors awful people.

    I hardly think that’s different for Europeans.

    You seriously think it’s Russia “wreaking havoc” across the world? We may live in the same country, but a different planet.

    Even most Americans admit that’s not true .

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        He’s not wrong but is purposely missing all the instances of Russia and China selling vast amounts of weaponary as well for their proxy conflicts. So he’s misleading entirely with this ommission and and denial of it.

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                Are the liberals in the room right now or just leftists who hate all imperialist countries? I know it’s hard to think with all that state run media in your head but I know you can do it.

                Edit: So was your .ml accounts banned and this is you getting around a ban evasion?

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                    Easy, both are imperialistic who invade and supply to global south countries to perpetuate constant conflict and to get people in control of territories with resources they want for cheap. None of them are innocent and anyone arguing for innocence is no better than an USA MAGA.

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      Nah I work in bot detection. Russian troll farms are massive and working incredibly hard to destabilize the world. I’d go as far as to say it’s one of the biggest threats we face right now. It’s just destroying society for sake of destroying it and people like you still don’t believe it.

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      They were already angry and bigoted. The troll farms were for directing and amplify that bigotry.

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        So shitposting $30k on Facebook “hacked” the 2016 election? Come on. That’s tears in the rain of what very domestic bigot amplifiers spent, and half of it was Bernie stuff.

        Stop looking for foreign boogiemen for problems capitalism caused.

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          Why not both? Russian strategy is well known and publicly available: amplify conflict subjects and spread maximum lies.

          The original issue might be legit but it’s distorted and amplified to the point where it can no longer be solved for even with best intent. It really works.

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          It’s all interconnected. Domestic capitalists? Foreign capitalists? They’re all the same because they don’t view themselves as nations of any nation. They’re allegiance is only to themselves and use each other as opportunities. They can only trust each other when they have backmail on each other, which is the real main purpose of Epstein’s parties are for.

          Zuck allowing foreign propaganda on his platform is not because he believes in Putin’s cause, but because he might want a favor from Putin or Russia in the future. To him, it’s a capitalist investment.

          There’s plenty of examples in history of opportunists tweaking the news to rile up bigotry for a profit. History never stopped happening.

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              Also, I called them the Epstein class. Epstein might have been involved, but there’s probably hundreds or thousands of spooks would are doing shit. Epstein himself stands apart because he was sloppy.

              Spies and spooks don’t do it out of a sense of loyalty or professionalism. They like doing it. Even if Mossad or the CIA were completely aligned against Russia, that doesn’t stop their assets from fucking around.

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                The Epstein Files showed that Epstein was trying to destroy Trump at this point. He was found to have been texting his bought Virgin Islands rep during the Cohen testimony to help attack Trump.

                This only shows he was trying to help Putin AGAINST Trump, and only through Norway because he DID NOT have contacts in Russia.

                Norway is indicted here, not Russia. Seems their Princess was a former child sex slave who still adores Epstein.

                Did you read past the headlines?

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                  The Epstein Files were released by Trump. They’re not completely trustable, especial when they can just remove whatever they want without it looking foraged.

                  Also, I’ve been referencing the run up to the 2016 election when Russia was ramping up their misinformation campaigns. They’ve had outlines for these things for a long time.