• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    https://archive.is/20261006201825/https://www.wired.com/story/openai-is-pissing-off-a-bunch-of-mathematicians-again/

    TLDR:

    Most of the “mathematical breakthroughs” from AI have been done by loading all available recent research from humans solving the problem, and then collating it while skipping reviews and telling the humans who did the work it would literally be “too complicated” to explain the AI didn’t actually do anything…

    It’s all just lies to drive up stock prices, what they release appears to be stuff that would be released shortly anyways, it’s just being dumped at once 99% of the way done before it’s verified.

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      I’m assuming this is about the 372 math “breakthroughs” they recently posted. The top “discoveries” seem to be trivial cases that don’t give much insight into the broader conjectures and many of them don’t even have a lean proof so they can’t remotely be trusted as correct (and having a lean proof isn’t necessarily proof that it’s correct either). They basically crapped out everything the AI did and said you figure out!

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        9 hours ago

        Super fucking sorry that my finding a way around the paywall wasn’t good enough for you.

        But of course, you couldn’t even link it either for some reason.

        So here’s what I say we do:

        You block me so you never see me putting effort in, you’d have came here, not seen my link or any discussion.

        And then maybe you’d actually provide your paywall removed link for everyone instead of bitching.

        Now I’m doing something to, don’t worry.

        I’m going to block you, because obviously it’s hard for me to put up stupid shit like this.

        And I just never want to see anything from you again.

        Everyone wins champ.

        • AeonFelis@lemmy.world
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          Super fucking sorry that my finding a way around the paywall wasn’t good enough for you.

          @hirihit640@sh.itjust.works could have probably worded their comment in a less aggressive tone, but this is not about not being “good enough”. This is about archive.is running malicious code on users’ browsers.

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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            4 hours ago

            Cool.

            You should put the time in to find a better link then, and post it for people.

            That would be productive. But I’ll never know if you figure that out or not

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      1 day ago

      Your understanding of what they did is not correct. But also fuck OpenAI I am not going to explain their bullshit for them. So anyway put Sam Altman in prison is all I am going to say.

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        24 hours ago

        If you really thought that, you could have just typed what you thought I was wrong about instead of a literally useless comment…

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          24 hours ago

          I do not want to appear like I want to defend them because I don’t.

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    1 day ago

    Several employees within OpenAI believe their technology has rendered math dead anyway, according to people who have spoken with them.

    They do believe a lot of things about their magic word machine.

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    22 hours ago

    Now, after release, here’s an example of the initial thoughts of someone who had spent time on one of the solved problems:

    Mathematician impressions of Barnette Conjecture solution

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      22 hours ago

      Making things very obscured is not a proof.

      The guy is politely saying it’s nonsense

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        20 hours ago

        I don’t think that’s what’s being said. More like the complexities of the solution are taking a while to understand because it is a complex solution using complex math. Even the smartest people in their fields can’t always look at a solution and at a glance understand everything without truly digesting what they’re seeing.

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    1 day ago

    Hinestly, AI can be a great tool to further evolve mathematics,but you still have to understand every gory detail it did to solve the problem. If you can’t do that, it’s not solved.