There is no competition: Idiocracy, because it isn’t funny anymore when you are in it yourself.
I’d rather be in Idiocracy.
at least President Camacho knew they were doomed and was trying to fix it. Dickhead Trump is trying to speed-run our demise.
I know, sipping butter and watching Ow my Balls sounds better than working your life away. I can even be an airline pilot.
When I first saw it, it was a comedy. Now it’s a horror movie.
It was funny when it wasn’t real.
It’s also pro eugenicist anti-poor nonsense.
It’s a fair criticism but imo it’s not too hard to write off that bit of absurd narrated exposition at the beginning and instead think of it as being about anti-intellectualism and broken institutions, since the rest of the movie seems like more of a satire of those things, and the plot doesn’t really land on eugenics as a solution to its problems.
Mike Judge made a statement about it in an interview:
We live in polarized times, which means that for every ‘Idiocracy is a documentary!’ take that goes around, there’s also a critique that argues that Idiocracy is a celebration of eugenics. Have you thought about that interpretation of it?
Well, yeah. I mean I’ve actually read that a couple of times. But to me, I thought the opening made it very clear that whatever side you take, nature and nurture are both covered in that. That guy is clearly not a good father. I mean, there’s a kid with a motorcycle in the front yard, and no one’s paying attention to this. He’s just irresponsibly knocking up different woman, and proud of it. It’s not like he’s a good, upstanding role model for the kid. So I think it’s pretty clear here that, whichever one it is, [nature or nurture], there’s some combination of both. I obviously don’t believe in eugenics. I think you could look at it both ways—you have this couple that’s trying to be so responsible that they end up never having kids. Then there’s another couple who just irresponsibly keeps having them and not raising them right. So, you know, if the other couple adopted the other kids. I’m sure they would probably be better off.
Yeah the eugenics take always seemed a weird one. No implications that the family reproducing like rabbits shouldn’t have any children, just that maybe it would be good if they had a reasonable amount of kids responsibly. Also the couple that never had kids despite wanting kids shouldn’t have been so cautious as to miss out.
Well I can kind of understand it, because it pins the cause of a problem of declining population level intelligence on who is having children, which is a controversial idea to say the least.
The movie presented a problem within the human experience.
Eugenics is the fascist answer to the question of existence. Always will be.
The thing is, the movie itself is fine. It is self contained satire that never tries to pass itself off as more than an absurd joke. It’s that everyone is citing it as prophetic or relevant that’s the issue. Ironically, the people that can only process real events through their favorite fiction aren’t nearly as smart as they think they are.
Aren’t the wealthy in Idiocracy also, well, idiots?
I thought the thing was everyone was an idiot
Yeah, but it is because the rich people in modern times didn’t have kids while poor people were, even having significant resources given to them to allow them to survive and reproduce.
I don’t know if they were portrayed as “rich”, but just a couple that was very careful and considered about everything. A clean and organized and empty house being a consequence of that. While trying to fit children in “properly” they never found the time.
Certainly the two preserved people were not rich.
Also, I don’t think the message was that “poor people” should not reproduce " as your eugenics claim asserts, think the takeaway would be that folks should find some happy medium, the people let planning and anxiety get too in the way of having the children they wanted, and the other example needed at least some more responsible sensibilities.
The non-producing couple were portrayed as being yuppies, which would be upper middle class. This is conveyed in how they dressed, their home, and how they spoke. It isn’t the wealthy elite, but the professional class below them. This contrasts with the poor group living in a trailer park during a time when trailer park trash was a common expression.
And I don’t think that “poor people shouldn’t procreate” was the message of the movie. However, the movie has a thesis from those first few minutes, intended or not, that making life safer and easier for everyone to predominantly lead to the dumb uncultured masses taking over well built systems until they degrade to the point where they don’t work any more.
We live in a society. We depend on each other to keep that society functional.
We resent the effort it takes to maintain life, because that prevemts time being spent on the less.mundane stuff.
Humanity built rules and morals to keep us on track, but nature doesnt loose - it reroutes the river. Controlled breeding looses out to hornyness. And Entropy eventually topples the sand castles of humanity. Like giant avalanches of garbage.
Idiocracy is not at all positive about selective human breeding.
The opening scene has no mention of genetics. Just that stupid people raise stupid children. Yes, in real life, a child can break free of bad parentage, but it’s rare and outside the scope of an 84 minute movie. In real life, the stupid people would be way, way more mean spirited, but that would make for a bad comedy.
Yeah some of the memes are funny but the themes of the movie are pretty regressive :(
Everything Rob Schieder started in.
None were very well liked even when they were fresh, but things like “Big Stan”, in which his pipsqueak convict character has to go on a karate-kid-style journey to learn martial arts from David Carrodine in order to fend off rapists before he heads off to prison is kind of a case study in a whole genre that could be called ‘damn, you really thought that was funny?’
Norm MacDonald and some of the other SNL folks dabbled in some of the same jokes, but were much more talented, so some of this stuff feels a little forgivable. Schneider though… oof.
Also: I haven’t seen it, but I’m going to guess that 2008’s “You Don’t Mess with the Zohan” – in which Adam Sandler stars as an Israeli Mossad super ninja who wants to be a stylist – probably didn’t age great.
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he’s the one that hasn’t aged well. gone off the deep end, he has. antivax, transphobe, trumpette, pimps for moms for liberty… you name it. actually got pulled from the stage in Regina (ca) during an event two years ago, in the middle of his routine, due to piss-poor taste and ‘inappropriate’ (to say the least) content. src
It can’t age poorly when it was never good to begin with
I rewatched Napoleon Dynamite last week and it holds up well IMO. So, not that.
Bow to your Sensei!
I hadn’t seen it until this year; it held up well, but the peak for me was the jumpcuts while they talk about Pedro’s bike
The thing is it was a refreshing change when it came out. I thought it was the funniest movie I’d seen in years, bought the DVD when it came out thinking it was still great then when I tried watching it again a year later and it completely lost it’s luster. It’s like Juno, that one movie was great for a change of pace in an otherwise stale genre
Some movies only hit on the first watch. Once you know the gags, twists or ending its just “Yeah Ok.”
IDK, I didn’t really buy into the hype of either film at the time so when I eventually saw them on DVD, I was disappointed of course. Individual scenes in Napoleon Dynamite were entertaining on their own merits and highly quotable, but the film barely had a cohesive plot and felt more like a series of comedy sketches stringed together rather than a proper movie.
Juno was terrible thanks to the dialog alone. IDK who wrote that script (and don’t care to look it up), but it was some of the most unrealistic dialog I’ve ever heard in a piece of media. Everyone talks like robots and always has the perfect quirky comeback anytime anyone says something. The only person in that film who spoke like a human being was Michael Cera, but every scene with him in it was insufferable because he’s Michael Cera.
Diablo Cody was the writer of Juno, and I only know it because she became a hot commodity after the breakout success of Juno. And she had a middling hit with Jennifer’s Body but hasn’t done anything of note since.
Meanwhile whomever did Napoleon Dynamite was getting offers left and right, and his followup Nacho Libre was a dud because they were banking on the same success of ND but starring Jack Black. Jon Heder got a bunch of offers, including that skating movie with Will Ferrell but I think he kinda just fizzled out
Nothing left for me to do but dance.
Shallow Hal is a pretty good contender
Isn’t the ultimate message of the movie wholesome though? I’ve never actually seen it.
The basic message is supposed to be but loses intent because of the fact it’s all fat jokes
Anything with Adam Sandler
Primarily because he’s about as funny as a erectile dysfunction
He’s at his most hilarious when he sings with the squeaky voice 🙄
Someone completely ruined the band Alt+j for me years ago by pointing out that the singer’s voice sounds like Adam Sandler doing that goofy squeaky voice. Now I cannot unhear it. Every time I hear a song by them it makes me lol.
Now I’ve passed this onto you, and whoever reads this. You’ve now been cursed as well.
This is one of those monkey paw curses in reverse because, if anything, you just made Alt+J better.
Made me think of this internet classic:
I can’t tell if they aged poorly because I also hated them when they first came out.
Hey Happy Gilmore is still decent I think. Pretty sure I watched that in the last few years. Maybe big daddy too I haven’t watched that in a minute tho.
Everything else by Sandler, yeah you’re dead right
Punch Drunk Love is good because he had no hand in it other than acting.
We’re just gonna pretend Wedding Singer isn’t a classic huh?
Eurotrip - the whole dvd.
I clicked through rewatching some of it and it’s generically raunchy, like it was trying to outcompete the American Pie movie for sex references and topless women.
Edit: It can be very depressing in winter.
I don’t remember it being that bad and Scotty Doesn’t Know is a banger. Miscuzi!
Damon looked like he had a blast.
mi scusi
Yeah I don’t get the love of it. Parts of it are ok, but there is a lot of cringe.
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that’s a great channel.
OH GOD I just remembered Meet The Spartans exists.
The other day I wanted to watch a fun animated movie, and found that I’d never seen a Teenage Ninja Mutant Turtles movie that came out in 2007. Downloaded, put it on… and immediately greeted by the weinstien logo… then they had not one but TWO different Asian actors doing lines in the “broken Chinese accent.” Kinda ruined the whole movie for me.
Idiocracy
I thought it was silly because of how crazy far-fetched and unrealistic it was, since that stuff could never happen in real life. But now that kind of comedy has aged terribly and is no longer funny at all.
/s :(
Freddy Got Fingered
It’s always been an anti studio fuck you, and it’s brilliant in that regard
Yeah, Tom Green was fantastic, and his humor was always so much more than on the surface.
That is one of the biggest counter examples. Critical anger for daring to release the film. It’s considered a classic by now.
Some movies age like fine wine, some age like milk, Freddy Got Fingered aged like urine. It was sewage from the very beginning.
This movie just came up the other day. I drove a LeBaron at the time it was released. I’ll never forget “number one son”.
“I have a bag of jewels for you. They’re jewels Betty… They’re jewels. I got them all for you.”
Norbit.
I mean, it was questionable then too. But looking back on how Eddie Murphy decided to tank his career says a lot about how comedians of the time loved punching down.
Um, Eddie Murphy will live forever as Donkey
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The more recent one was pretty good all considered but it was legitimately jarring how he never did the Axel laugh. Like I remember when Eddie said he was retiring it but he really should have made an exception for Aquell Folie.
Mr Robinson’s Neighbourhood!
I don’t know if 2010 is allowed, but Get Him To The Greek would probably have to be up there. Russell Brand and P. Diddy together on screen at last!
Two that come to mind to me are Click and That’s my Boy. Both Adam Sandler movies of course. The first one is very queerphobic and sexist, and the second one is a story about pedophilia. Still surprised they managed to get Christopher Walken for Click tbh…
The sad dad in Click still elevates Click though.
I feel like 50 First Dates doesn’t hold up
Heretic!
