Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flew over Greece, Italy, France and Canada on Thursday on his way to address the UN, despite an International Criminal Court warrant for his arrest.
The ICC issued an arrest warrant for Netanyahu in November 2024, on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity allegedly committed in Gaza since October 2023.
Netanyahu arrived in the US for a short visit to address the UN General Assembly in New York, where Mayor Zohran Mamdani has said he does not have the authority to arrest the Israeli leader.
the west’s rules based international order is dead , and they killed it themselves
The Western imperialist rules-based order is the same as it ever was: they make up the rules and order everyone else around.
turns out the “international” law only applies to the global south and that the “international community” is just the NATO and friends.
Rules based international suggestions
The question is: was it really ever alive to begin with?
it still is… against the non-western aligned countries
never, but nobody had a proof or an unambiguous example they could cite
“Rules-based international order” folks.
Coming from reddit, it’s interesting to see a world news forum that isn’t entirely and totally captured by Israeli Hasbara mods. I got banned from reddit’s /worldnews for pointing out that “invade Iran” vs “let Iran have nukes” is an asinine false dichotomy. (And I didn’t even use the word “asinine.”)
I think Iran should have nukes
Ideally no country should have nukes.
However, Iran having nukes may be preferable to Iran having its country ‘annihilated’ by an empire that already has nukes, and is the only country to have ever used them.
In the world where countries do have nukes, I think Iran should have nukes. In a world without nukes I think they should also not have them.
Once socialism becomes global and imperialism is eradicated, we can do serious work toward nuclear disarmament. I’m old, though, and won’t live to see it.
I don’t think any country should have nukes.
In the world where countries do have nukes, I think Iran should have nukes. In a world without nukes I think they should also not have them.
Welcome to Lemmy!
Thanks, friend!
That’s basically why communists created Lemmy in the first place, to allow communities unencumbered by corporate social media’s censorious algorithms to thrive.
here is Zionist violence monitor: https://sh.itjust.works/c/ZionistViolenceMonitor
Also: https://archivegenocide.com/
(warning: graphic.)
I hate to say I told you so, but I earlier this week I said the ICC a neocolonial imperialist institution employs selective justice. Turns out the .today and .worlders were wrong again.
Many such cases
The rules bent order
where Mayor Zohran Mamdani has said he does not have the authority to arrest the Israeli leader.
As expected, he knew this very well
Contrary to France, Italy and Greece who signed the ICC; they have the authority but not the balls nor the spine. Their leaders are fucking losers
Last year it was “I’ll definitely arrest him if he comes to New York”
yes, you know it sounds nice but it’s not more than that.
Politicians going to politician
Remember when France did this on Obama’s orders in 2013? Bolivia Presidential plane forced to land after false rumors of Snowden onboard.
But what about the rules based international order?
We break the rules, you follow the orders, Citizen!
Ashamed of my so-called country.
As am i
I think any country that allows things like this should get ignored by the ICC for any criminals that they want to have arrested. France looking for a criminal that stole stuff from the Louvre or something? Nah, ask someone else.
France (and the rest of capitalist core) is already ignored by ICC. Reading many comments in this thread i see that people seems to have many misconceptions concerning purpose and scale of ICC. In fact, it is not chasing burglars, but it is the colonial court for Africa and the scale of its activities are kinda pathetic since the number of indicted are not many and many of them were not even arrested and judged.
ICC only had its five minutes when it accused Putin (enthusiastically supported by all the countries that now ignore its accusation against Netanyahu) and now Netanyahu.
- Colonize Africa, appropriating its land and people.
- Stop colonization, but never pay African countries back for it in any noticeable capacity.
- Force African countries to join the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund, both of which strongly prioritize rich countries’ interests.
- Now they’re not colonies, but they still have to work like slaves to pay off unfair debts.
- Force them to join the ICC, which, among other activities, punishes mostly African government officials for forced labour in their countries, without which they would not be able to pay off debts to rich countries.
This is the West, the one that is supposedly peaceful, democratic, and wants to build a rule-based world order. Yep, checks out.
The International Caucasian Court is a tool of imperialism. It’s already ignored by the Global North when anyone tries to apply its rules to itself, so the Global South should also ignore it.
Typical western double standards. Apparently, AIPAC has control over these countries’ politicians
Apparently, AIPAC has control over these countries’ politicians
I think it’s more that they’re all on the same imperialist team, that Israel is a partner in crime.
Pussies
“Poor Impulse Control”
TIL: Under Article 3© of the Chicago Convention, a state aircraft cannot fly over another country’s territory without that country’s authorization.
Whereas for ordinary commercial airliners, the necessary overflight rights are usually already established through international treaties and bilateral/multilateral aviation agreements.
Putting aside the question of whether the leadership of those countries actually wanted to arrest him, it’s not obvious to me what they could actually do.
When an aircraft is passing through, and not actually landing, they could order it to land (which it would refuse to do, presumably), then they could resort to some posturing with fighter aircraft, then they would either have to give up or shoot down a foreign head of state.
Unless they’re willing to immediately go to war with Israel and the US, and likely a bunch of other countries, there’s really nothing they can do about it
Not give it passage through their airspace. The most basic things.
You plan to not give passage with your amazing mind control skills?
Your “basic things” proposal needs to be pragmatic.
How do you think nations enforce their airspace normally?
I always assume that libs are dumb as fuck but this was just amazing. They don’t know anything holy shit.
They’ve become worse than parodies of themselves at this point. Like, Netanyahu could literally drive through these countries and these white supremacists would be arguing “How could they possibly arrest him? He could just say no!”
If a cop wants you to stop your car, don’t do it, you can just keep driving.
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Western
ValuesHypocrisy laid bare:Rules for thee, virtue signalling for me.
there’s really nothing they can do about it
Do you think Putin could go through these European airspace without being challenged?
Give us some more of that mental gymnastics, bud.
Do you think Putin could go through these European airspace without being challenged?
What are they gonna do? Shoot down the leader of the country with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world?
They would probably threaten to, at least. Denial of airspace, then if he went through anyway there’s zero chance they wouldn’t send fighter jets up there.
I wouldn’t be even surprised if they did, but Putin never tested it.
They should withdraw from the icc then
If an aircraft enters your airspace without your permission, you can shoot it down. Who is on it is immaterial. I can understand Italy, Greece and Canada not having AA missiles or not wanting to piss off the US, but France can 100% get away with it. The US won’t pick a fight with a nuclear power.
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are we pretending that most people protesting the genocide of palestinians do not also abhor the actions of the west in iraq and afghanistan (and iran).
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It’s kind of amazing .world lets Zionists like you have an account for so long. @jordanlund@lemmy.world
@jordanlund@lemmy.world will probably make him a mod lol
Please don’t summon him to lemmy.ml. It only ever results in more smug liberal diarrhea.
Maybe you should ban him then
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Maybe you should stop moderating fucking Nazi communities.
LOL - still running that “nonconfrontational” line I see… How’s that working out for you?
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=22645042
still running that “nonconfrontational” line I see… How’s that working out for you?
What the fuck are you talking about? It’s just a username. It’s working great?
You are 100% confrontational and keep catching bans for it. 😉
It’s like you’re not even speaking the same language as me, lol.
Why would I give a fuck if I’m banned from your garbage Nazi communities??
How’s that working out for you?
You’re like pure reddit congealed into a person
It’s cool, you’re .ml congealed as a person. 😂
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the comment that got removed here would catch a ban in World as well.
Maybe now that Trump is in, but before that you explicitly allowed Gaza genocide denial and indeed banned people who reported it.
No, no I did not. I regularly removed comments and banned users denying the genocide from the start when the numbers of Palestinians killed were as low as 5,000 and morons were trying to say “Nuh uh! You don’t know that!”
You explicitly told me you made an exception to the rule against genocide denial for the Gaza genocide, then banned me for reporting them because that was “harassment”.
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Jordanlund, lying through his yellow teeth? Must be a day that ends in y
Bullshit.
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Please don’t summon Lund; nothing productive ever comes of it.
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If only. I banned it.
Oh my bad I thought the account was banned because it said so on the profile. Thank you then.
Only banned from our instance. You’d have to go to their instance to see if they’re banned from there (I checked; they’re not).
50.000 casualties
Genocide denial
While it are primarily Americans fighting for the Palestinian cause.
???
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Oh so not 50k? So you were lying then.
And we both know damn well that 77k is the number of positively identified direct fatalities (not causalities, as you tried to lie) caused by Israeli munitions, it doesn’t include deaths from indirect causes resulting from the complete destruction of civil infrastructure or deaths that couldn’t be confirmed because the bodies were buried beneath bubble or couldn’t be positively identified by what remains of the Palestinian medical system after it’s systematic destruction by Israel. Meanwhile the number you’re citing for Afghanistan is total excess mortality from all secondary effects.
But again, you know that, and you’re being dishonest on purpose because you support the genocide going on in Gaza.
