Epstein was just as tight compadres with Bill Clinton.

“Both sides” its the same side dumbass.

Nuance my ass. Nuance in politics when mentioned by fool like you is akin to people screaming “let people enjoy things!” when someone dares say their Marvel slop sucks.
You rigidly support the democrats no matter what and you screech at any critique, no matter how correct. Yeah, seems real nuanced.

Nuance isn’t just when you support genocide, but feel kinda bad about it. Nuance definitely isn’t when you reduce the modern capitalist oligarchy into a binary, with no other options. Real nuance is a discussion of abstaining from voting vs. Voting third party.

Not wanting to commit genocide is a pretty moderate position, sure.

Neat! Or whatever, I couldnt really give a fuck what you believe or your reaction is or whatever. I dont live in the fantasy-land you construct in order to avoid engaging with basic concepts, I live in the world where you dont vote “for or against policies” you vote for a party or a politician and that group or person uses the vote as a point of support for their policies. I think im going to end my interaction with this discussion here, because there’s nothing to gain from it at this point, its pretty clear you just want to play make-pretend.

If you actually believe democrats and republicans are the same then yes, you “win”.

Why do you types insist on pretending that you’re more obtuse than a caveman? Do you pretend not to understand arguments because you know you cannot make it in a straightforward discussion ?

Voting third party would be the correct choice.

If you put faith in the electoral system, yes. Glas we agree.

The existence of the phrase “strategic voting” proves a vote is not a blind show of support.

As did your statement that voted despite certain policies. As I’ve detailed, that doesn’t matter. The existence of the catholic church isnt proof of god.

Adhering to the politicians’ lie that a vote means full support isn’t logically consistent with how people make choices in the voting booth.

So you admit politicians claim legitimacy from votes. Neat. What isn’t logical is then continuing to support them, when that is what they do.
Again, the rest of your spiel is pointless. What matters is the practical reality of what a vote is and does, which you’ve admitted yourself is a sign that you support that politician. You can say whatever you want to make yourself feel good about voting for genociding police-state fascists, the police state fascists only care that you vote for them, not why.

It would be nice to find out, seeing as how the current strategy of voting blue no matter what very observably leads to genocide and less and less differences between the two parties.

Okay? In that case I declare I dont really believe it matters whether you vote for a democrat or a republican since they’re the same. There we go, I win, thats that discussion.

I dont really care what you believe, especially when the observable reality is one that differs from what you’d like it to be. It matters to politicians whether or not people vote for them and they use it to determine how much appeasement to capital they can get away with. Politicians do not walk around and ask voters whether they got the vote in spite of a policy or not. They win and, correctly, assume that the course they’ve kept is one they can continue on.

On top of that they use the amount of votes they receive as legitimising their rule. They quote it in speeches, they use it in their retrospectives, it is the foundation on which they rest their claim of experience when they train new generations and when they try to push legislation through. Voting for a politician signals you support them and their policy, thats what a vote is.

Authoritarianism is a meaningless word created by an actual anti-semite as a way to minimise the Holocaust by claiming the Soviet Union and the Nazis where the same because they both used state power to do things. Every state is authoritarian, all it is is a word to describe enemy-countries, like saying “regime” instead of government

Doing something that hasnt been done has not been proven to do anything because it hasnt been done. Voting democrat has only accelerated the orphan-killer, so I struggle to see how legitimising the people who want to kill orphans could in any way be a more effective way to stop them than doing the bare minimum of not legitimising them.

Alright, so you can vote for someone other than the orphan crushers. Weird how you pretended like that wasn’t a possibility.

Going back to brunch

Both of them lead to you getting put in the machine.

Whataboutism isn’t what that is, but whataboutism is also just a term made up by a zionist and then propagated by the CIA in order to stop people like you from thinking about things.

Is the taco coming from all the immigrants the democrats deported? They even ran on being tougher on immigration than Trump. They deported more people than he did. Is that where the taco is coming from?

Is there more than two parties in the US?

Are you talking about the one who said that trans people should “follow the law” when asked about their persecution? The one from the party that concluded it had to be less woke to win elections, after eating shit again? The one who has a long track record of doing nothing, at best, for trans people? The one who did nothing to defend roe v. Wade? That one? Yeah, what a great idea, surely signalling that you are completely fine with being thrown under the bus and persecuted (as long as there’s a guy with a combover opposing them) will not at all come back to bite you in the ass. How’s the poem go?

First they put children in tiny cages, but I didnt care because it was Obama who did it and besides I’m still sitting nifty, so who gives a shit.
Then they bombed trans people, but they were brown, so I’m still sitting pretty.
And thats it, im hunky dory.

You’re ignoring the stated viewpoint and making up one thats easier to argue against. Its clear that in the eyes of the poster they both give the same thing, one is just rude about it. Either argue for why being rude about it matters so much or argue for why they aren’t creating the same conditions.

Communists critique of Democrats: Somehow both not at all relevant or to be taken into account and also the reason KKKopmala lost

Wow that sounds crazy, can you show me a link of a bunch of .ml users telling they didnt exist?