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    Key fact:

    Officials involved in the investigation pointed to gaps that they said were left after Hegseth dismantled most of the Pentagon’s civilian harm mitigation, or CHM, units — cutting headcount across a number of teams by roughly 90% to fewer than 20 staff members, people with direct knowledge of the matter said. Centcom’s team was reduced from 10 to 1.

    No CHM team member reviewed the Minab site before the strike, according to officials involved in the internal investigation. That was a consequence of the cuts in staffing but also a decision not to involve the group in planning and operations, the officials said.

    This is less about an AI mistake and more about a culture shift (which leads to an over-reliance, but is heavily a “we don’t care”).

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      so this department of war criminal needs to be in jail or guillotined for war crimes. esptein class and dont forget he fired multiple generals in the department of defense not war for giving advice about the war. he ignored and fired them to proceed to abuse our men and women in uniform.

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    “Noooo brooooo the ai did the bad thing, broooooo now we can’t even charge anyone with war crimes bro, it was the ai who did it that’s so unfortunate broseph, nobody is to blame now, that shit just happened with AI bro, brooooooo”

    Like obviously they didn’t ask grok “can we bomb this facility” this is absolutely just running media interference

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    So, another “Oops…” and Americans aren’t war criminals? Every fucking American soldier in the chain is an accomplice in war crimes. Every idiot who tells them “thank you for your service” is a supporter of war crimes. “I was following orders” is not an excuse.

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    Motherfuck!

    Lookie here I’m all good with AI as a chatbot or making princess jasmine porn for the wackaloons.

    But connecting to your email, sending emails. OR FUCKING BEING USED FOR MILITARY INTELLIGENCE I draw the fucking line!

    The hell is wrong with these people!

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      They’re using AI so they can blame AI… It’s not like they wouldn’t have bombed the school without AI, they’re just using it as a scapegoat.

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    This kind of deniability is a core feature of AI. “Um, the killing/hacking robots we built and pointed at targets went out of control” is not something that should mitigate criminal charges.

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    “AI CEOs need a reason to not be held accountable for economic damage of their garbage product and paid the Pentagon to release news that justifies their failures and inability to progress further.”

    FTFY

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    The Tomahawk Block IV (Tactical Tomahawk) added an in-flight camera system that lets it send back battle-damage images before impact, and the missile can even be redirected to a new target or loitering point mid-flight via satellite link. So it’s not a passive “fire and forget” weapon in the way older versions were.

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    In terms of child casualties, it’s the deadliest American military targeting error of the 21st century.

    This should not be construed to say the United States has been mindful about not killing children.

    I did a bit of research regarding the CIA drone-strike program in Afghanistan. It ran about five-hundred sorties a year. The approximate rate was fifty civilians killed for every person-of-interest. Drone operators called casualties bugsplats. They called children fun sized terrorists. This was the lingo in used in the operation. When reported to the press, dead people, men, women, children, all were reported as militants.

    Drone-pilot burnout was epidemic in the program. It turns out soldiers get PTSD from killing people whether it’s up close or thousands of miles away. And often the drone would lurk for a while, watching all these people eat, work, play, sleep, fuck (they had IR and could see into buildings), and would clearly understand these were just people living their lives when the order would come down to incinerate them.

    And this wasn’t under George W. Bush (who still wiped out villages, but used PMC raiders doing black ops) this was under Obama. The disposition matrix and the FISC decided whether a POI needed to be executed. They didn’t consider the people that lived at the target site.

    And that’s just the Afghanistan program in the International War on Terror. There was also a Pakistan program.

    The United States in its military operations has been really merciless, and at some point we need to collectively decide if we’re okay with that, or are driven to change.

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          American exceptionalism is abusing your workers and making them feel guilty about it so you make more profit than your EU counterparts. That’s literally all it is. That’s why US always “surprises” economists with it’s rising stock market, worker abuse is fully normalized in our country.

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        The US has been bombing civilians with absolute impunity for decades. This has nothing to do with AI and everything to do with the United States’ repeatedly demonstrated and absolute disregard for human life.

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      It has been pretty obvious for those in power in the US that there is zero accountability ever since George Bush Junior didn’t end up in The Hague for the invasion of Iraq and subsequent Pillaging (the War Crime, as shown in the British Report On The Iraq War)

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        Yes, that’s the touchstone for my generation, but American lawlessness goes back to the invasion of the Philipines. but CIA and military actions during the cold war are especially egregious.

        How is kidnapping Maduro substantially different than overthrowing Noriega?

        What I love about Trump is that he is simply America without the mask. It’s frustrating listening to people weeping into their flags saying, “This isn’t who we are.” It’s exactly who we are. It’s exactly who we’ve always been.

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    That’s an interesting way of saying “stupid fucking military assholes just did what ChatGPT said to do without thinking and murdered 123 CHILDREN without even thinking.”

    “AI” just said stuff, human beings pulled all the triggers. People did this.

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      Even if the whole kill chain was automated and the machine “pulled the trigger”, it would still be the fault of the humans for caring so little about the lives of children that they wired the trigger for something that can mass kill civilians directly to the machine.

      There really is no way that this shit can be blamed on the machine.

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      Trump/Hegseth went apeshit and banned Anthropic from entire government over “just letting AI pull the trigger” ambitions.