“Why would you even get into bestiality?” he asked. “We’re not into bestiality,” said Patel.

In a further exchange, Patel explained to Senator John Kennedy, the Louisiana Republican, that previously, regulations had barred anyone who engaged in bestiality “on either side of it.”

“Either side of what, the bestiality?” asked Kennedy. “So you disqualified the animal?”

“We have great canines, but we’re not going to disqualify them,” said Patel.

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      Or an escalation from the Epstein files. They have gotten all the underage rape they want, now they want to normalize beastiality.

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        excellent point. A tie in with the epstein files would explain this. If they were fucking kids at an industrial scale I bet they had animals too. So some rich bastards fucked some animals and now they want that decriminalized. Finally this makes sense.

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          When I first herd about the files, this was my exact thought. Some of the videos Ive been subjected to as an admin of furry stuff… Ain’t no regular person got the funds to support that bad behavior.

          There are ghetto (KY trailer park dog sex rings) cases, but anything larger than a dog… There is an industry. That’s why rich people go to horse races, they are shopping.

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      This has become more culture war bullshit. People don’t genuinely care except that it’s a political football. Like, I’m sure if they stopped and thought about it, they could work up some tears, but that’s just not the part of their brain that is activated 24/7.

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    The following post didn’t make much sense until I saw this one further down the feed.

    Thanks, OP, for keeping me sufficiently aware of the insanity to understand the memes.

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    The answer he was getting to is just as crazy. There were so many trafficked victims who were also forced into beastiality that ALSO want to be in the FBI there grew a need to update the policy. Like…what?

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      He can’t give out FBI jobs to his fraternity alumni because they all had to fuck a pig as part of the initiation.

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        Yeah, they could have let victims in without letting abusers in, by simply adding the word “willingly”. They did it this way though, specifically so they could let in the abusers for the reich they have planned.

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      Another comment connected dots for me, and consistent with: ‘No more walking on eggshells’: Hegseth vows to lift guardrails on military hazing, harassment

      This is the pro-hazing administration, and maybe animal raping is part of some of their ‘good old boy’ hazing?

      Obviously not sure, but it’s at least a theory that has some rationale that otherwise seems impossibly pointless to change.

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      If a woman who was forced into it by a gang wants to join the FBI to take these people down to keep other girls and women from having the same fate, why would you deny her?

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        Under the law, we do not criminalize or hold people to actions taken under duress. You can keep the policy and just qualify the action to having been done willfully. You don’t need to allow abusers in to open the door for victims.

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          Ok? Do you not understand the policy change? You are under the impression that willful beastiality is now allowed in the FBI? If you believe that, why do you believe that? Are you ok with having unreliable information?

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            He just said that the policy disallowed the fucking dogs who had been victimized. Are you expecting sensibility on these policies? Are you for real?

            Yes I believe 1000% that whatever stupid excuse he gave for this policy change, it will be used primarily to put more unqualified, criminal, deviants into positions of federal authority. That seems to be this administration’s bread and butter. Look at ICE, look at several of Trumps cabinet picks and AG picks apart from his own adjudication for rape and association with Epstein. Do you think that the Patel FBI who protects Trump and all the other Epstein abusers has high moral standards for the quality of its hirees? Come on.

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              Dude, don’t live your life like this. Stop believing every hyperbolic headline the media comes up with. The original policy was dumb and it’s been corrected. Victims of coercion should not be disqualified from the FBI because the question being asked isn’t nuanced enough.

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        Because that’s a strawman argument & doesn’t happen in reality.

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          You seem to know so much about it, are you an FBI recruiter or do you work with victims of human trafficking? Because unless you’ve done at least one of those things, I can’t see how you would have any knowledge from which to make such an assertion.

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            Giving fascists the benefit of the doubt is stupid & I refuse to do so. If Kash Patel told me the fucking sky was blue, I’d go outside to check.

            So no, I don’t fucking believe them, and you shouldn’t either if you have more than two braincells to rub together. What I do know is there is at least one white supremacist group & one really nasty college club that are both reported to use bestiality as initiation rites to use the threat of blackmail to maintain control over their members. The only victims here in those cases are the animals.

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              I wouldn’t say the point of my comment was to give fascists the benefit of the doubt; moreso to question the credibility of your confident assertion that victims of human trafficking who have been forced into degrading acts such as bestiality never ever apply to join the FBI.

              Keep in mind that these sorts of oversight committees set something called precedent, which means the results of the hearing will continue to have consequences even after the fascist administration is over and gone.

              If they need to adjust the verbiage to narrow it to an exception for precise circumstances, that’s one thing. It doesn’t need to be viewed as “either it’s always allowed or it never is.” There’s an entire category of stuff that could be “potentially disqualifying” but situation-dependent and can be granted waivers on a case-by-case basis. This could potentially be one of those things.

              But erasing the struggles of human trafficking victims by saying “that never happens” without any actual knowledge of the circumstances, is not the correct response to fascism. Bite me if I’m wrong.

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      I feel like the framing of whether they are victims or not is kinda irrelevant. I just don’t want people who won’t say no to fucking animals just to get into a frat to have any kind of authority.

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        You know what, I particularly don’t want people who are willing to admit to fucking an animal during a job interview to work.

        Not just at the FBI, kinda anywhere.

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      I was sitting here wondering why there would be such a wide spread issue such that they would move to change the rules instead of just covering up some isolated incident.

      I didn’t think of hazing as a possibility, but that totally tracks and just reiterates how totally screwed up their candidate pool is…

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      They could have just added the word “willingly” to the rule. They didn’t, because they’re trying to hire some fucked up people for the next stage of their reich.

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    Jesus, is this what even qualifies as a distraction now? If gas prices keep going up Kash may end up sucking off a llama in front of Congress.

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      This hasn’t been in the news (I’ve seldom seen this in reputable places other than Wired), so it’s an ineffective distraction if so.

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    Its hard to understand why they would do this. Some high muckety muck must have hit bestiality (I’m sure they prefer “zoophilia”) on their polygraph, or else its a opener/stage setter to ease a broader category of crimes, probably pedophilia and rape.

    But no one can claim the GOP doesn’t love animals anymore. A Lot. Patels claim that this is aimed at protecting sexual assault vicitims is nonsensical. They could carve out a law specifically for that use case but they didnt. And the FBI pushing a law specifically for an exceedingly rare outcome for victims is out of pattern. Its not about victims, its to protect perpetrators-- as is usual for republicans in the US.

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      As weird as it sounds, I assumed there was some logic to this, and there was at least one case where someone had been the victim of sexual abuse and was forced to engage in bestiality. Then someone with half a brain realised that such a victim had no repulsive proclivities, so shouldn’t be excluded as a candidate on that basis.

      The mere mention of the topic encourages irrational discourse.

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        They could have let in those people by adding the word “willingly”. They changed this rule to start letting in the more violent people they’ll need for the next stage of the reich.

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    What’s really funny here is that they could have said something like “we condensed the questions using screening questions. Instead of asking about specific, uncommon, convictions we ask if they’ve been convicted of anything. This is to make the process more efficient.”

    Or whatever.

    But now, no one is going to believe that’s why, and everyone’s going to believe cash got shagged by a horny goat.

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    Why do I get the impression some second rate LLM scraped references to "fucking the dog’ and turned it into official FBI policy?

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    Two years of total control and this is what they consider a win?

    I know there’s no conservatives here because Lemmy is very much not a safe space for them, but I’d really like to ask one what the fuck they think winning is.

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      I’d really like to ask one what the fuck they think winning is.

      its pretty clear that being able to fuck livestock on a streetcorner and get away with it = winning. Good job republicans. Whenever I’ve heard “the south will rise again” this is exactly the sort of stuff I thought would happen. This and the elimination of womens rights and the legal enshrinement of racism.

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      They say the sky is green, the govt says it’s green. They say you are vermin, the govt says your vermin. They definitely love seeing you having to live beneath whatever they say. Costs be damned, they won.

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      The cruelty to immigrants makes everything else worthwhile to a lot of them. There’s also much enthusiasm for Hegseth’s bro-ification of the armed services. For wealthier supporters, the enablement of open corruption is a huge plus.

      Anyone whose identity requires them to be Republican, but isn’t enthused about previous points, can fall back on the claim that Dems would be even worse and this is the lesser evil.

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      I’d really like to ask one what the fuck they think winning is.

      Not a conservative, but I guess “them libs” being mad is worth it for them?

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        True, but they dont love being laughed at for being idiots. And this will 100% result in a lot of comedy at their expense. So GOP leadership must want this pretty badly. It could be related to this governments attempts to integrate government functions with the state of israel.

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    Which White Supremacist group is it that has bestiality as an initiation rite?

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    “We’re not into beastiality,” said Patel. “It’s interspecies erotica, and we will not engage in this type of kink shaming.”