Take that, red bull bonces!!!

  • Nyadia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    That is a lot of sugar, but to be fair, go to your local convenience store (if you’re in the US) and look at the back of just about any drink for sale aside from bottled water and you’ll be hard pressed to find drinks that aren’t just as bad.

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      To be clear, that means they are all terrible for you. I think that’s pretty much universally true of anything you can buy in a gas station.

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          Every person’s mouth is different, I can’t drink anything with artificial sweeteners without feeling kinda gross afterwards. I stick to cane sugar sodas as much as I can. Kinda easy since I work at a soda factory that exclusively uses cane sugar. Ill mix our in-house energy with orange cream soda and oh my that shits good.

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            Oh yeah I wasn’t saying you’re wrong. Just sharing since I thinkits funny I feel the same as you do but about the opposite end of the sugar scale for red bull. Full sugar monster is fine for me. I don’t drink the full zero energies because they often mess with my stomach. I wish more stuff used cane sugar, I almost always prefer that version of a drink!

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              Oh yea definitely, I didn’t take it that way. Sorry if it sounded as such. It’s crazy how the artificial sweeteners vibe differently with people. Shoot even water is like that, some areas the water makes my stomach hurt lol 😂

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    As someone who grew up avoiding sugar and having to look at the back of everything this would have been relatively low in sugar compared to other products sold in that same store in my area. In the South of the US you would have a hard time finding something lower than sprite and or tea(~35g)without alternative synthetic sweeteners like aspertain and sucralose or just water and those options used to be sparce. A lot of times a convenience store would only have diet coke, unsweet tea, or water unless I was okay with 30+ grams of sugar. I’m not saying that it’s okay to have that much sugar, but it definitely seems far out of the way from some of the much lower hanging fruit. For example even Gatorade and Powerade have more sugar per package unit and those were available via vending machines IN the school. Also, pretty much every fast-food drink station makes you choose between water, unsweetened tea, or something with almost 50g of sugar when in a can.

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      This is such a bad take. Sugar doesn’t directly give diabetes to you. Your pancreas will try it’s best, but if it’s genetics or just insanely high sugar levels, it doesn’t matter. The minute your body can’t keep up with insulin production, the high levels of blood sugar absolutely wreck you.

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        So we agree, sugar doesn’t cause diabetes? Nothing you said contradicts that, and you describing the result of high blood sugar doesn’t speak to what causes it. I’ve only been diabetic for 13 years, 4 as a diabetic educator at a camp for kids with diabetes, what would I know?

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          So why does treatment that consists of reducing or controlling glucose also control for symptoms and progression of diabetes?

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            Type 1 or type 2 or gestational? I’ll answer all 3. Many types 1’s eat a reduced carb diet as a means to simplify dosing. Every gram of carbs must be manually accounted for and dosed for. Less carbs means less glucose spikes means less math and less dosing. To be medically accurate this is not considered “treatment” since it isn’t treating the disease, for a type 1 treatment consists of insulin, glucose monitoring, carb counting, and you can argue glucagon in that list as a treatment for insulin overdose.

            Type 2, you could describe aspects of TREATMENT of type 2 with what you said, with caveats. Type 2 is often but not always associated with diet, exercise, and genetic predisposition. With that context less sugar means less weight gain means less likelihood of getting type 2 if one is prediabetic. The other side of that is lowering carb intake helps with weight loss which can cure type 2 (not always) and it helps with what I described for type 1’s: less carbs means less sugar spikes means less insulin. None of that has anything to do with the simple statement that eating sugar does not cause diabetes.

            Gestational, similar but different type 2, with the understanding that the genetic component means you can still get it even with proper weight, diet, and exercise management.

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              No, for the first, we call that lifestyle modification, it’s absolutely a form of non-pharmaceutical treatment, like physical therapy. Diet and exercise are essential. I am arguing that if control of sugar and carbs helps response, it can also be assumed that uncontrolled sugar will create more problems. Sugar is a culprit.

              I’ll restate my previous with type 1 in mind: sugar isn’t the sole cause of diabetes, but it absolutely contributes to developement of type 2, which the original poster was eluding to and seems to be going way over your head.

              Educating people, especially children, that sugar doesn’t cause diabetes is a misleading over-simplification of the disease. It’s wreckless and contributes to a lower quality of life over time. I’d absolutely ask you or your manager to reevaluate your current understanding.

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                Well thank you for your factually incorrect assessment of the situation. I will take it under advisement and have decided not to tell a camp of type 1 diabetic kids that sugar causes diabetes, because then I would be as wrong as you are.

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                By this logic I should stop drinking water because if I drink too much I’ll drown. And that’s a life style modification thus water causes death.

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                  No…Drinking water doesn’t cause drowning. Inhaling it does. How much water have you inhaled in your lifetime? Regardless, even drinking too much water can cause seizures.

                  The logic is this: there’s an unhealthy amount of anything for everyone.

                  Everyone needs to lower sugar intake to reduce the chance of developing diabetes type 2. And absolutely control it if born with type 1, gestational, the whole spectrum of diabetes. Sugar isn’t the only thing that leads to it, either, but the risk is absolutely equated with sugary foods.

                  Lowering of carbohydrates reduces stress on the pancreas. Heck, your body can create sugar as it needs. We don’t need carbs and will be healthier with less in our diets.

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          Leads to is still medically inaccurate. Too much sugar cannot lead to diabetes. Too much sugar CAN lead to weight gain, and weight gain CAN lead to diabetes, but sugar intake cannot LEAD to diabetes.

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            Not directly, but indirectly as you have pointed out. To me, whether directly or indirectly, it still leads to it one way or another. Or can lead to, rather.

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              Do all people who eat sugar get fat? Do all people who get fat get diabetes? I fully admit it’s a pet peeve of people not using the correct terms but it leads to real issues of not understanding what causes diabetes. If you have your pancreas removed that CAUSES type 1 diabetes, because it is impossible for you to not get type 1 diabetes once the pancreas is gone. You see that is not the same relationship, right?

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                Well that’s why I said ‘can’ lead to. I’m not saying literally everyone in that situation ends up the same, what I’m saying is it’s an indirect cause for some people. Of course there’s always other causes, whether direct or indirect.

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                Obviously not everyone who has a reasonable amount of sugar gets fat or diabetes.

                However, NO ONE has actually claimed that straw man. This culture of ‘only drink things that have at least a hundred calories of refined sugar added’ is a huge problem for weight gain and diabetes.

                In your analogy, yo usay removing the pancreas causes type 1 diabetes. This is absolutely a cause. Yet on the other hand you seem to be arguing that since there are other causes besides high sugar diets that can also cause type 2 diabetes, you shouldn’t say high sugar diets cause diabetes.

                High sugar diets are a huge risk. Some people manage to get away with such a diet without diabetes (but likely get other issues with weight gain), and some people have the misfortune to get it anyway, but the fact remains a high sugar diet can result in diabetes, though arguments can be had about how direct/indirect the relationship is.

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                  Did… did you look at the original shit post image we’re talking about? Please don’t tell me no one is saying sugar causes diabetes, because dude…

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    This is still less sugar than the chocolate milk cartons they serve in American schools.

    EDIT: Just to be clear, I hate both lol

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    actually according to their website it’s 27g of sugars. What I found even funnier (or worse) though is this

    Makes it look like RB has less sugar than juice, but we’re comparing 100ml of the bull to 250ml of juice. FFS

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      They’re comparing serving sizes. There are 100ml cans of red bull. But if I asked you for a cup of apple juice, and you put just a 100ml cup in front of me, I’d ask you where the fuck the rest of it is.

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        There are 100ml cans of redbull? 100ml is usually the volume listed alongside the servingsize or can size to allow people to more easily compare products. When you compare composition of one thing to another, it is always fairer to compare equal volumes, or use percentages.

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          Forgive me, I was in error regarding the can size. I assumed the tiny cans were 100ml, but they’re actually 8.4oz , which is around 250ml.

          The reason red bull uses the 100ml number is because it’s a rate that can be applied to the different sized cans.

          Also, the reason you want to use serving size instead of equal volume is because you consume different things at different volumes. Consider alcoholic drinks. A pint of beer, a glass of wine, and a shot of liquor are all significantly different volumes. But the serving sizes all have similar amounts of total alcohol. No one should be drinking a pint of straight vodka.

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    “Nah im not tired or insomniac i just love consuming 3 cans of bull piss every single day it tastes just good”

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    I thought that the sugar industry worked really hard to ensure they didn’t have to show a daily % amount on the right across from the grams listing. I have never seen a % there before. Crazy.

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    The slogan, “RedBull gives you Wings” needs an asterisk. It only applies to those who are grated into heaven after they die of diabeetus

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    As a caffeine source, I would argue the bigger problem is a missed opportunity to get the phytonutrients in coffee or tea. For most people, their daily coffee might very well be the only source of polyphenols they get that day.

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    Could be worse I guess, coca cola has about 50g or so in a can

    On another note, I hate how all drinks add more sugar than needed. I usually use only 10g to sweeten my milk tea, but every canned drink is 30 to 50g