People are not allowed to disagree or not like? What’s the downvote button even for then?
I also read a post about downvoted content being “buried”, so I guess most people have their feed by Hot and that’s why? And what would be wrong with that anyway?
New gang till death, I like my content chronologically.
ps: What was that site you could see your upvotes/downvotes? I’m curious about my ratio and how grumpy I have become.
edit: I should have been more clear, I’m talking more about mods being touchy. If a random user gets mad that he was downvoted, there’s not much they can do, but there are mods banning people for downvotes lol
I think they call it “rejection sensitivity dysphoria”
I’m gonna echo some stuff, so be aware.
I think it isn’t just lemmings/lemmites/lemmizens/piefudlians/mbingos. It’s anywhere humans can show support or non support via visible means. Like/dislike, star ratings, whatever. I’ve not seen any more or less butthurt over votes here than reddit. Maybe less in focused communities where folks tend to directly engage more anyway.
But it comes down to feeling disrespected. Talk to folks in meatspace and ask them about this kind of thing, and if they care about those points, that’s what it often is. They feel like some stranger was rude to them.
Secondary to that, there is also he contingent that has an emotional investment when they vote, so they assume the same in others. In other words, they use voting as a dislike button as opposed to a ranking system. So, they think anyone down voting them is just dismissing them via emotional reaction.
Anyway, as long as there’s a sorting method based on votes, it has an effect beyond that, so you kinda have to be careful to keep it in mind. Me? Other than fat thumb mistakes, my down voting is for off topic, non useful, off-vibe, or otherwise ill fitting comments and posts, usually. Low effort comments will get one sometimes, if the post matters.
Up votes are similarly doled out, though I’m not above throwing one purely because I like it.
I always say you take the downs and the ups as they come. Don’t whine about it, don’t pretend ups mean anything about you or even the subject, it’s not like you win anything by virtue of votes. Hell, even mentioning them in a thread should be limited because it derails things more often than not.
I’m with you on sorting by new. It’s not the downside that you see posts in reverse order, so if there’s a dozen posts about the same thing, you won’t know it until after you’ve interacted with the newest, which may not be where the good interactions are. But it’s still better than the artificially placed sorting.
I think most clients will have an option to display upvotes/downvotes separately.
Voyager certainly does, anyway…
I mean, I always see on https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/yepowertrippinbastards people that got banned because they downvoted posts.
Mods can see votes in their communities without needing external tools.
That does happen. Has happened to me in fact. But you asked about ‘ratio’ so I assumed you were interested in the upvote vs downvote counts. Not who was voting how.
Seems odd that you would complain about people being touchy about downvotes, and then want to go see who’s up and downvoting you, though.
I want to see how often I upvote and downvote stuff (my ratio, to see “how grumpy I have become”), it would be an immense pain in the ass to check random users individually to see who might have downvoted or upvoted something I said, and I’d be dead before I cared about what a random person on the internet thinks of me anyway :P
ps: it’s about 1 downvote for every 9 upvotes for posts, and 1 for every 20 for comments
Ahh - makes more sense. Apparently whatever site you can see this at shows that my ratio isn’t great? So I’ve been told.
I browse by New and run into a lot more…cruft…than the average lemming though. That’s my explanation, anyway. I don’t feel like I’m grumpy and I feel like my post and comment history is in line with that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
it’s https://lemvotes.org/ (thanks dohpaz42@lemmy.world)
haha, yeah, perhaps browsing by New instead of Hot might be responsible for amount of downvotes :P
I say what I’m gonna say, and sometimes I get downvotes and other times I don’t. I downvote bad takes, trolls, or other things that I feel I strongly disagree with.
Use it as a barometer. If you’re constantly getting downvited for your posts, perhaps some introspection will tell you why. Otherwise, don’t worry about it. They’re fake Internet points and some people just won’t agree with you. You can’t please everyone.
Doesn’t bother me. In general I feel I’ve earned my downvotes. I can say stupid shit or phrase in an insensitive manner. Some cases can be good feedback and cause introspection.
By pattern I’ve think some individuals dislike something (or many things) I’ve said enough to downvote every post of mine they see. If downvoting me makes them feel good, I’m happy for them. The block button is right there though…
I only get pissed when people downvote when they’ve made their own dumbass assumption. The moments I have mentioned furries online come to mind, where I (as a furry) say something innocuous and have gotten these other dumbass furries who downvote and go “and? What’s wrong with being a furry”? Brother I am one.
I know it’s such a thing to be mad at, idk why it’s so irritating to me.
Remind yourself the opinions of dumbasses can be, well, dumb.
I’m sure different mods have their different reasons. Maybe it’s a frail ego, or maybe they’re morally righteous and find downvotes derogatory and demeaning. Who knows how some people think. 🤷♂️
Also, you’re thinking of Lemvotes. In my experience, it doesn’t always work for all instances. Hell, there’s been my own posts that on .world that I couldn’t pull up.
I thought we are above Reddit with petty clamouring for points.
tell that to all the power users/mods here who act just like reddit power users/mods.
Yeah, in that manor it’s somewhat like Reddit. Even if you have a clear and explained opinion that isn’t the narrarive the masses are trying to push you get down voted into oblivion. Once you get a few down votes, then everyone just goes with the mob mentality that it’s automwticqlly bad regardless.
An example would be abortion. I’m pro choice, but I could see how you could argue pro life as a valid opinion, even though I don’t agree with it. I’d get lambasted because I’m not hard pushing that pro life is the worst thing in the world ect.
Lemmy reflects real life, I taught for 20+ years and I can tell you in my experience most people think they’re incredibly smart and have the solution to everything. Once you challenge them with a valid question or give any pushback, you’re called racist, fascist, islamiphobe, ect usually because they’re just repeating something they heard from someone, possibly a lot smarter than them (sometimes not), and they never really formed that idea/opinion on their own and don’t actually understand it beyond parroting it.
thanks for being a teacher. i wanted to be one, but i saw the ‘writing on the wall’ coming with ID politics and I just decided it made no sense to pursue a career where I’d be punished for doing a good job and people would hate me for trying to educate them.
I was in grad school in 2010 and the kind of crazy shit people, at the graduate level, were saying was scary as hell and it’s so sad that… their ‘everything is racist, etc. if i don’t like it’ attitude bled over into the rest of society.
I miss the 2000s when people who did that were considered insane and everyone ignored them. Now they are the norm. I wonder if they even have debate topics anymore like abortion, I would guess in many places they are simple verboten to discuss.
I downvoted you.
I don’t get that - if a mod gets mad about downvotes they can hide them. They did that on the old NSFW, maybe it has to be instance-wide?
It’s not something that would ever have occurred to me. I suppose if the Cocktails was being brigaded by abolitionists, or Hair getting brigaded by salty bald guys or something I’d be touchy, but overall I’ve found Lemmy to be pretty chill, so it hasn’t come up.
I downvote when I think something is contributing noise to its community rather than signal.
they take it as a person insult, and use it as a person insult.
and some people mass downvote you, regardless of where/what you posted because they are angry at you because they think they are ‘punishing’ or 'getting back at you.
it’s mostly dumb people who take internet stuff way too seriously and have it tied up with their personal self worth.
Downvotes are for abusive/bad faith/rule breaking posts or comments. If you disagree, use your words.
then… what’s the report button for?
I only use the report button for obvious spam, and for some rulebreaking posts where the community has clear rules about what can be submitted, like communities that require links (no selfposts).
But most communities don’t necessarily have mods online the same time I am, so if someone is obviously spamming I block them, too.
I think lemmy disagrees
