cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/51388116
With the end of physical PlayStation games looming, the need for clear digital ownership rights is more pressing than ever.
For its part, Sony believes your rights are very clear: you do not own your digital games, and it’s unlikely you’re stupid enough to believe otherwise. At least, that’s roughly the argument the company’s lawyers are presenting in response to a proposed class-action lawsuit.
Sony argues that its current customer-facing disclosures ensure that “reasonable consumers would not be misled” into believing they actually own their digital games. That’s according to a Game File report (paid article link) citing an August 21 filing Sony’s lawyers made in California’s Northern District.
If this logic were true, then pirating a game couldn’t be theft because the original owner still has possession of it.
I hope that backfires in their face.
Piracy has never been tried successfully as theft, because it does not deprive the original owner of their lawful copy. It has always been tried as Copyright Infringement.
Modern Piracy is never theft.
Its not theft because nothing is being stolen, only a copy being made. Their take on this is all the more reason to pirate. I’ll be damned if Im paying $80-$100 to “rent” a game so they can take it from me when they lose the license. Which they’ve been doing alot of recently.
I really, really hope this backfires. They are arguing in public about how we should not have rights to the games they offer us and somehow don’t care how bad the optics look? I swear I think I am done with Sony and I have been with them since the 90s. They need consequences for trying to treat its consumers with such disregard. At least most companies try to hide it behind closed doors.
Sonys been evil as fuck for decades dude, remember when 20 years ago they hid rootkits in their cds for drm protection.
They only looked good a few years ago because Microsoft was racing them to the bottom with the early Xbox One drama.
That whole thing was absolutely fucking nuts.
Have you seen the source? They were fucking script kiddies.
Absolutely, I guess I was more forgiving back then. Plus this feels way more agressive and covers everybody. I think it’s more the fact that it’s in the public eye and they don’t care at all which is making it worse to me.
Why do they use terms like “Buy”, and “Purchase”, then?
So by that logic, Sony also don’t own the games and therefore have nothing to sell.
Oh my god, Sony. Fuck off.
There’s a reason everyone says they’re going to purchase a copy of a game. No one ever thinks they are buying the master and suddenly owns the IP. The lawyers at Sony have rocks for brains.
Sleazy lawyers expect the judge to have rocks for brains and buy this argument. They’re relying on the ignorance of digital goods and how they work. I hope they didn’t forget that neat word from the last corpo scam before AI, non-fungible. Every copy is indistinguishable from all the other copies. If you can sell infinite copies at no cost, then people should be able to buy a copy and keep it in a working state forever. Fuck DRM.
I don’t believe anyone owns media. I believe “buying media” should provide, baring illegal action on the buyers part, an irrevocable license to the media. Additionally, if the media is only available online, the media needs to be provided for the expected lifetime of the buyer.
What a strawman argument. No one has ever tried to argue that.
I mean, I bought the only peanut butter ever made. There was only one, I bought it.
That lawyer is an idiot. He’s arguing that Sony willfully double dipped n times after the first sale of each and every digital title.
If I were a judge, and someone presented a case so fucking stupid, I would dismiss the case with prejudice.
Lawyers have to at least pretend to do their jobs.
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“we only manufactured one! When you bought it, we no longer owned it!”
I’m certainly not stupid enough to own any Sony games.
Well according to Sony, you don’t own any even if you paid for them on their storefront.
