• Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 hours ago

    Another part of this is the disruptive people are more visible on public transport. On a bus you can see two people arguing loudly and feel unsafe from it, whereas on the road those same two people could be arguing just as much and you’d never notice it in your bubble.

    The people arguing in the car are more dangerous though because:

    1. One of them may be driving while operating a vehicle is not the biggest thing on their mind.

    2. You can’t see that they may be dangerous and move away from them because you don’t know what’s happening

    • redditStinksSuperBad@lemmy.world
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      hah, I’m reading this headline like “I’ve never accidently sat in a puddle of someone else’s piss in my car though so there’s that.”

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      lol this is the issue. It’s objectively not dangerous (or at least not more so than driving) but there are certainly some very uncomfortable situations that can happen. And I think a lot of people can’t really tell the difference between “this is an incredibly weird and uncomfortable social interaction” and “my life is in danger”.

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    People watch too much TV. I’ve lived in several major cities on multiple continents and a car free for longer than 20 years. I’ve never once felt unsafe on any train, bus, or subway. Flying is far scarier.

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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      Flying on a major airline is exceptionally safe. Regional airlines are quite a bit sketchier, and…vote for me for fascist diaper dictator in 2028 and I’ll put a stop to this: Some Fuck LLC will get a contract from one of the majors and start operating their fleet of Beech 1900s or something painted with “Delta Connection” or similar livery while training crews and maintaining aircraft to nowhere near the standard of the brand on the side of the plane.

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    my car:

    • just me

    public bus:

    • naked stranger touching himself
    • methheads
    • piss, piss everywhere
    • used needles in seats
    • drunk guy passed out on the floor of piss and vomit
    • truant teens screaming and threatening people

    yeah. no, I’ll take the risk of an auto accident in my car.

    • BillCheddar@lemmy.world
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      You’re scared of a scenario that exists in like, 1980s movies and in your head.

      In other words: You sound like a Republican.

  • DredPyr8Roberts@lemmy.world
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    Safety is not a concern in my area. The issue is that it takes two to three hours to get just about anywhere that is not a hub, and a high probability of not being able to return to the starting point until the next day.

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      I took public transit to nyc because I dont want to deal with having a car with me, but I honestly regret it. The only bus back home is at 730am, with a 1 hour train ride to the station (so I need to wake up at 6am to be safe). I need to take another train home, which only runs every 2 hours, an I need to wait an hour. The ride itself is another hour. 8 hours for a trip I could have make in 4 hours, and for nearly half as much in gas compared to fares

      The bus fare is fast too, most of the other options habe multiple changes that extend the 4:30 by HOURS. It could take me 10 hours of public transit

      I fucking HATEEEE layovers, and changes. Routes and lines that are only ran every couple hours, so EVERY step can easily add an hour or more to a journey

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      Where I live I literally would not be able to take public transport to get to my current job, or my current school (both an hour drive away in different counties from where I live, public transport doesn’t cross county lines). I looked into taking public transport to get to my last school when my car broke down, but it would have been about a 5 hour one way trip involving 3 different buses and a 3 mile walk between one of the bus lines in order to go 16 miles (I couldn’t have walked or biked it because it’s all major highways and said highway crosses a river with no pedestrian crossing - that’s miles out of the way). I got a rental car instead.

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    This is true.

    I’ve had way more near-accidents when I’m out on my scooter than I’ve had near-violent incidents on public transit. That said, I’ve had two in three years of riding and you won’t find me out in public without my stungun now.

  • FancyPantsFIRE@lemmy.world
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    I’ve been riding public transit daily for over two decades at this point, and I haven’t been killed/mugged/ threatened once. Depending on the time of day you’re riding it can get more sketchy, but standard commuter hours everyone just wants to get from A to B.

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    Three are so many things wrong with this article I don’t even know where to start. In terms of danger from physical bodily injury, I have no reason to doubt this report while traveling on public transport. Though it is also highly dependent on the city and routes you take. It also doesn’t necessarily take into account total commute, which also includes travel on foot to and from transportation hubs. But a majority of crimes and incidents that happen on public transportation are often nuisance and property crimes, and other non-violent offenses. There are also quite a bit of unreported incidents that occur.

    What that translates to is that many people still encounter a higher level of incidents on public transportation that make them feel unsafe. In terms of actual physical safety though, if you summarize mass data like they’ve done here then public transportation is still much safer overall. However, that shouldn’t be used like done here to discredit people’s experiences and concerns with public transportation. The goal should be to still work on aggressively on improving people’s actual experience.

    The data doesn’t really matter in changing perspectives if people still significantly experience significantly more anxiety and fear by witnessing or experiencing intimidation, verbal hostilities and altercations, property crime and theft, public indecency, drug abuse, and other things that are legitimate reasons for increased anxiety and paranoia.