Pedofiles, those that think and do not act, deserve more compassion by society. They can’t help the way they feel. Acting on it is obviously extremely harmful but they can’t even talk about it, even to therapists, for fear of persecution. The current methods of suppression are harmful and akin to conversion therapy for lgbt folks. We need to allow them to have a voice and access to non harmful animated CP with all consenting adult voice actors or AI. In out current society they are akin to trans people in the 1950s
I dunno if I necessarily agree with the AI aspect of it. Because I think that might just be a slippery slope.
But overall I think non acted upon pedophilia should be viewed more akin to intrusive thoughts where we also try to not condemn the person for the thoughts or fantasies they have.
My issue with genAI csam is two issues. One, what was that model trained on? Two, it would be fairly easy to hide real csam in a folder of generated csam.
If it’s drawn, it’s fine with the exception of when it’s based on a specific child.
Germany has had a program for that for like 20 years, apparently it’s working pretty well. The therapy at least, the societal part is pretty much the same as everywhere.
Germany had a program where they gave foster children to pedophiles, up into the 1980’s, because they thought that the creeps would take care of the children if they could fuck them.
Certainly agree with some of it but I don’t know if I necessarily agree with legalised non-harmful CP.
I absolutely think that non-acting paedophiles deserve compassion, I can’t imagine how genuinely awful it must be to have thoughts like that, particularly if they clash with your own moral values. Even trying to get help could potentially wreck your life so it feels for some its a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation.
I wish I knew what the answer could ever be but absolutely we need to somehow reduce the automatic prejudice on those who want help. As you say, conversion doesn’t seem to be the answer, if you haven’t seen it then I highly recommend watching Louis Theroux’s A Place for Paedophiles where he spends time at Coalinga State Hospital looking at people convicted of these types of crimes where they are held indefinitely unless they enroll in a conversion therapy course which has an insanely low number of successful patients being able to leave it and get back to the real world. The stuff feels inhumane and almost designed to fail.
Its an area that absolutely needs more researchers and resources thrown at it but no government in this awful timeline is ever going to survive the right wing press backlash on “wanting to let predators live around children”.
those that think and do not act, deserve more compassion
Well if its any consolation, pedophilia is not a crime and never has been. Rape is the crime and always should be. Not all pedophiles are rapists, we need to prosecute actual rapists more instead of electing them president.
Pedofiles, those that think and do not act, deserve more compassion by society. They can’t help the way they feel. Acting on it is obviously extremely harmful but they can’t even talk about it, even to therapists, for fear of persecution. The current methods of suppression are harmful and akin to conversion therapy for lgbt folks. We need to allow them to have a voice and access to non harmful animated CP with all consenting adult voice actors or AI. In out current society they are akin to trans people in the 1950s
I dunno if I necessarily agree with the AI aspect of it. Because I think that might just be a slippery slope.
But overall I think non acted upon pedophilia should be viewed more akin to intrusive thoughts where we also try to not condemn the person for the thoughts or fantasies they have.
My issue with genAI csam is two issues. One, what was that model trained on? Two, it would be fairly easy to hide real csam in a folder of generated csam.
If it’s drawn, it’s fine with the exception of when it’s based on a specific child.
Germany has had a program for that for like 20 years, apparently it’s working pretty well. The therapy at least, the societal part is pretty much the same as everywhere.
Germany had a program where they gave foster children to pedophiles, up into the 1980’s, because they thought that the creeps would take care of the children if they could fuck them.
I know, but my link refers to a program from 2005, which is a year that came after 1980.
I agree that they should have compassion and someone to talk to
They should not have legalised CO
Certainly agree with some of it but I don’t know if I necessarily agree with legalised non-harmful CP. I absolutely think that non-acting paedophiles deserve compassion, I can’t imagine how genuinely awful it must be to have thoughts like that, particularly if they clash with your own moral values. Even trying to get help could potentially wreck your life so it feels for some its a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. I wish I knew what the answer could ever be but absolutely we need to somehow reduce the automatic prejudice on those who want help. As you say, conversion doesn’t seem to be the answer, if you haven’t seen it then I highly recommend watching Louis Theroux’s A Place for Paedophiles where he spends time at Coalinga State Hospital looking at people convicted of these types of crimes where they are held indefinitely unless they enroll in a conversion therapy course which has an insanely low number of successful patients being able to leave it and get back to the real world. The stuff feels inhumane and almost designed to fail.
Its an area that absolutely needs more researchers and resources thrown at it but no government in this awful timeline is ever going to survive the right wing press backlash on “wanting to let predators live around children”.
Well if its any consolation, pedophilia is not a crime and never has been. Rape is the crime and always should be. Not all pedophiles are rapists, we need to prosecute actual rapists more instead of electing them president.