Fun fact, the Nicine Creed exists because this question was a legitimate crisis of Christianity. The council of Nicaea determined that Jesus was not created by God but rather “begotten”, meaning he was equivalent to God but not the same as God, and has existed for all eternity as part of God
Yeesh,what an illustration of the goofy bullshit people make up to avoid fixing what’s actually wrong with their belief systems…
Oh, sure. Mock Christianity. But no one bats an eye when Tolkien retcons half of The Hobbit and gives an excuse like “well the book is written by Bilbo and he lied at first”.
Allow me to introduce to you…George Lucas.
I don’t remember anyone telling me that bilbo was the son of God, so I think we can hold different yardsticks here.
Well of course not. Samwise was the incarnation of all that is good, loyal, and holy. Bilbo was just a prophet.
Hold on there. Wasn’t ‘LotR’ supposedly finished by Sam after Frodo dipped?
Well, IIRC The Hobbit was initially just a collection of bedtime fairy tales he made up for his children, of course it had inconsistencies.
Actually, thinking about it, that seems like a plausible source of the Old Testament as well…
Religion started because kids were asking their dad questions. “Daddy why is the sky blue?, Why does the sun move across the sky?, Why why why daddy” “Uh uh some sort of god does that, yeah a god”
And then those kids grew up and still believe that story et voila you got religion.
what if unlimited games but no games
Where does Mary factor into this? Perfect ass?
Don’t got why people have all kind of reactions to this when it’s literally the most basic knowledge of Christianity, that Jesus is 100% God and 100% Man and that he had to die “so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but have eternal life” because he was literally the only person born without the original sin and didn’t sin at all, at the same time he always existed as part of Trinity (the verb/the son) and then “the verb became flesh” How mfs live their lives in countries of christian majority and are surprised by this?
Honestly if Christianity is not part of your life, why would you know that? I grew up a Christian but “the verb” is very doctrinally specific wording that I’ve never heard before. I think you’re really overestimating the influence that someone else’s religion would have on you
Honestly if Christianity is not part of your life, why would you know that?
Agreed. What i find annoying is people seeding hatred about christianity like it’s their full-time job, but then not taking the time to read how any of the religion works. They’re the ones who should know how the cited “begotten, not made” factoid works.
That’s obviously wrong. I don’t need to read Mein Kampf to know that nazism is a bad idea. Sure, it helps, but it’s not necessary.
Similarly, I don’t need to read the entire corpus of christian theology to understand that the bible is mostly fiction and that christofascists are wrong and awful people (don’t get me wrong, those are two separate facts - I don’t think all christians are awful).
I don’t need to read Mein Kampf to know that nazism is a bad idea. Sure, it helps, but it’s not necessary.
You need to know the concept of what it gets across, which you presume to with both mein kampf and the Bible because they’re very well known books behind very well known ideologies/religions.
Without reading it for yourself, all your criticisms of it are based on an idea of what the text says - this is even true for “mein kampf”, no matter how un-nuanced a text it might actually be. Maybe there is something surprising in there that you can actually analyse, an interesting thought experiment. Can’t fully interrogate ideas without actually reading them.
Also, I don’t think what you’ve said addresses what my comment was.
No, Mary was the only one born without sin, the immaculate conception. Jesus was from the virgin birth, but I think it was just assumed he was without sin. The more you think about any of this the less sense it makes.
I think we both put it in a bad way, i for not mentioning Mary and you for excluding Jesus from being born without sin
This belongs in the DSM.
Don’t get why people have all kind of reactions to this when it’s literally the most basic knowledge of Christianity, that Jesus is 100% God and 100% Man
The reactions are because people are learning that the council’s conclusions were controversial. Before the council it was not a dominant view. A large portion of early church fathers (and mothers) would be considered heretics by Nicene Christians.
that Jesus is 100% God and 100% Man
That makes about as much sense as Trump saying that prices were down by 500%.
he was literally the only person born without the original sin
Going back to the what the OP postulates: what was the ‘original sin’ of Adam upon his creation?
Chuck Norris was the only being to ever exist that could be 200% of anything.
Chuck Norris isn’t even 100% talented, bitch couldn’t be 200% of anything other than cringe
woosh
Also, Chuck Norris passed away earlier this year (and has now taken over for Death as ruler in the afterlife, I suppose).
The only woosh here is you thinking you’re doing anything other than cringeposting a lame meme that wasn’t funny 20 years ago.
Rot in piss chuck, you’re finally as dead as your lame ass meme. At least now Bruce Lee can finally kick your ass again.
who hurt you?
Joseph. The most in-denial man in history.
The O.G. cuck.
* The OMG cuck
“And why was God a swan?”
Well maybe he couldn’t the way he does it.
