Happens with other religious nutters, too. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/26/flight-delayed-men-refuse-sit-next-to-women
The ultra-orthodox follow a strict policy of gender segregation and, in Israel, have insisted that women ride at the back of buses.
trash religion.
Very true. In this case though, it’s a fabricated story. The airline has publicly stated that this didn’t happen. It’s only been reported by a far right German rag, and re-reported by other right wing media. This also is close to election time in Germany and stories like this help push their agenda.
This shouldn’t be shocking to anyone who pays attention. Every 2 years in america there’s some impending migrant crisis that evaporated around November 5th, like migrant caravans and such.
If true, the guardian would be happy to retract the article as they have done in the past… Unless the claim it’s not true is not true?
I totally trust a site called Townflex, whose four site categories are Entertainment, News, Net Worth, and Lyrics. Seriously. Lyrics.
Oh but wait, they got the information from Bild, that ultra objective totally reliable German tabloid, so that means definitely happened.
You can’t just say Sharia law and expect a new seat assignment.
I didn’t say it, I invoked it.
I’ll try to invoke shakira law next time to try to get an upgrade to business class
Any hips caught lying will be put to death
Doesn’t Shakira use a private jet?
I DEMAND to sit next to Shakira!
I INVOKE my right to sit next to Shakira!
WAKA WAKA the plane has been diverted to Africa.
Fuck misogynistic twerps and assholes who give flight attendants and other kinds of service workers a hard time, but this story would not be getting signal boosted by rags like the Daily Mail and New York Post if it wasn’t a Muslim immigrant being accused
Misogynistic religions should be cancelled for their misogyny.
Fuck them, fuck the misogynistic dress code, and fuck this asshole for assuming his backwards fucking religion applies to free and more enlightened countries like Germany. They can either adapt their religion to 21st century ideals, or earn all of the criticism they rightfully deserve.
“I prefer that men who assault flight attendents not be muslim” -news outlets owned by rich christians who believe 99% of what sharia law muslims believe
I wish I knew how to get billions of people to care about anything that actually matters as much as they care about the made-up rules of their imaginary friend club.
Jewish folk have refused to sit near a woman on flights in the past as well, though I didn’t think attacking crew members was involved
This was the one I was thinking of but apparently it’s not uncommon
he refused to sit next to a woman, citing Sharia law, and later assaulted a female flight attendant who intervened.
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Authorities identified the suspect only as a Turkish national living in Germany.That level of disrespect for the values of a democracy should get you expelled IMO.
This is an extreme level of sexist discrimination, that goes against fundamental values of a modern democracy.
This kind of people is not fit to live in a democracy.
Fining him and maybe even sending him to jail for a few months will not teach such a person anything, but will only radicalize him further against the values of democracy.Good — now do all the religious zealots — like Christian or Jewish extremists.
“Christian extremists” always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. A real Christian extremist would be giving away everything they owned and responding to all violence with pacifism. I think Christofascism usually fits better.
I hate the “those extremists are not REAL members of my religion” rhetoric. We shouldn’t forget that christianity also tells us to stone gay men to death, that slavery is good if the victims are from other nations, and that women should subject themselves to their husbands. The European slavers of the past were some of the most horrible people in history, and they were very christian too as they followed these rules to a tee. They did break the laws about respecting your fellow man, sure, but the inverse can be said of the christians who are decent people. They adhere the love thy neighbour rules, but break the rules that say that they should stone gay men. This means that the decent christians are much better people, but not necessarily more or less christian than the slavers of the past.
So if you are a christian and you feel bad by this association, I suggest that, instead of defending your relegion, you re-evaluate it.
I agree with the main argument of what you’re saying. I’m sharing that I’d flag these ones as fascist-forward, not religion-to-the-extreme.
At the end of the day, people are people and you’ll get the worst of us rising to the top in any power structure. In the case of Christianity, moving from a Jewish sect to a formal empire-backing religion of its own may be the worst thing that ever happened to it. Slavery, the crusades, the inquisition, imperial colonialism, they’re all up there too.
Stoning gay men? That’s not Jesus-based, although it is definitely supported by some Christian sects even today. But that supports fundamentalist Judaism, and isn’t what Jesus taught (“whoever is without sin, cast the first stone”).
So the problem then comes down to: what do you do when you share an identity with people who proudly do vile things in the name of that identity?
The teachings of Jesus actually are useful in exploring the answer to that question. He wasn’t Christian, he was Jewish. And he never renounced Judaism, even though he denounced the actions of the contemporary leaders of the Jewish faith.
Weird to only make that distinction for Christians, as if it’s the only religion with lofty ideals. An extremist Muslim who’s fervently committed to jihad would be someone who’s really dedicated to self-control, charity, and protecting the vulnerable.
Eh, fascists are a kind of extremist. Every religion has good and bad parts and for some reason when you hear about extremists in the news it’s always people who go hard on the bad parts.
I think Christofascism usually fits better.
Supply Side Christofascists.
I wish there were more “extremists” that were like that.
So you don’t disagree with the ideology of fascism, you only disagree with who is being targeted by it.
Fascist were historically noted for their anti-religious stance.
Fascists use religion (along with everything else available) to gain, increase, and maintain power. Fascists will even use socialist rhetoric if it gains them power. Actions matter more than what people are saying.
You can say you’re a socialist or whatever, but if you want to hurt people simply for being different from you, then you’re a fascist.
Should have asked him to step outside until he calms down.
The fight attendant should have called “Parlay” as this guy is obviously a sky pirate pulling these shenanigans…
The fight attendant
Hah
Finally someone got that!
Eh, it’s more of a guideline than a rule.
So would they deport him back to Turkey, or a different country that actually has any form of Shariah?
Meet in the middle at Konya maybe?
