• velma@sh.itjust.works
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    20 days ago

    Yeah I find this push for the US to take arms against the US army kind of a weird one at this point. It’s not going to happen overnight and the US is fucking huge. Like, do you all realize how geographically BIG the US is? Do you have any understanding of the difficulties we face in mounting any sort of physical resistance to this shit? You’re solidly delusional if you think complaining at individuals on Lemmy is going to spark a physical revolution here.

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      20 days ago

      Okay, counter point. Why complain at people on Lemmy then for pointing out facts? You kind of make it apparent this way that this is about your world view being challenged.

      If you acknowledge that you have to do more then vote and America is not a democracy. It means you have wasted you time and your life on people who literally cannot care about you with the way the system is.

      We are not voting our way out of fascism. We are not fixing a system working as intended.

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      20 days ago

      You know the take is factually correct but you still dismiss it because you want treats for yourself and you are willing to compromise on US imperialism for it.

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        20 days ago

        Nah, I agree with the take. I disagree that fighting in the comment section against people who are more aware than the average us citizen is going to produce the results you want.

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            20 days ago

            lol I’m not fighting, I’m having a discussion.

            You’ve taken the position that anything except shouting about revolution is simping for the US. There’s no middle ground for talking with you apparently.

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              20 days ago

              Wait, so being in favor of imperialism is taking a position, but being against imperialism is fighting people?

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              20 days ago

              If you seriously support having a Revolution in the US then reading Theory is not optional, there are errors upon errors upon errors that people inevitably fall into if they do not have a correct understanding of the world, it’s history, and how society, economy, the state, Capitalism and so on actually work, which kills a Revolution and result in horrible failure. Cowbee (I think, or maybe it was yogthot or how ever the name is spelt) has a good beginners reading list you can work through, at the least you should read works by Marx, Engels, and Lenin at a minimum.

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                  18 days ago

                  Thanks BTW, it was reading your posts on lemmy.ml that got me started on this path in the first place, I’d probably still be believing all sorts of absurd lies against Socialist countries if not for you, it has truly opened my mind to an amazing world of both possibilities and a far more hopeful current reality. (that and the depth of the Capitalists crimes against humanity whose true depth I hadn’t known)

                  Really, I used to live in an utterly hopeless darkness where I thought the only future for humanity was extinction, and it had been eating me up inside, ML Theory enabled me to see the light of humanity, just how beautiful humans can be if given the right conditions, and China has given me astronomically massive hope for the future that I’d still be blind too otherwise.

                  Thank you, Comrade.

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                    17 days ago

                    That’s incredibly sweet of you to say, comrade, and I’m honored to have been a positive impact on you! Thank you so much, it always makes me very happy to see when my efforts are actually useful for others.

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              20 days ago

              Revolution, or invasion, is the only solution for the US. People outside don’t believe in people inside’s willingness to make the former happen. The latter is the retribution waiting to blow in their faces.