For the people who didn’t read the article - apparently everyone in this thread - the reason for the postponement is not Trump’s comments, despite how the headline makes it sound.
Iran are smart enough to let Trump mouth off. What killed the talks is that Israel killed a bunch more people in Lebanon today.
This was inevitable. Iran wants a muzzled Israel as a condition of the war ending. Israel doesn’t want the war to end with anything less than the total destruction of Iran (they certainly don’t want a capitulation that actually leaves Iran stronger). So Israel are going to deliberately break the ceasefire until one of three things happens;
- Iran stops calling them on it (there is zero evidence that this will happen).
- Trump gives up on peace and commits to a full scale invasion.
- Trump finds a way to make Israel do what he tells them.
As I’ve noted elsewhere, this war isn’t remotely close to over. US vs Iran was the pre-show. Defeating AIPAC’s iron grip on US politics is the main event.
Stupid headlines
Annoyingly, it’s technically accurate, but extremely misleading.
If I say my friend died after eating at Arby’s, while neglecting to mention the part where he went to a bar, got stinking drunk and wrapped his car around a tree, the entire statement is technically true. Those events did happen, in that order. He certainly didn’t die before eating at Arby’s. But there’s an implied cause and effect that has nothing to do with the reality.
The fortune teller gave me some grim news, she said that I’m going to die after eating at Arby’s 8(. I haven’t been to one in decades but now I’ll never go back for sure.
Technically, some day I will die after eating at Arby’s and that’s a horrifying thought.
What if I’ve never eaten at an Arby’s? Am I technically immortal?
Probably, the unfortunate part is that you’re going to die now that you’ve posted a comment referring to Arby’s on Lemmy
A forever war, then?
We have ways been at war with Eastasia.
West Asia
In George Orwell’s 1949 dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, the world is divided into three superstates: Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia, which are all fighting each other in a perpetual war in a disputed area mostly located around the equator.
Currently, based on public statements from him and Vance, it actually looks like Trump thinks a fight with AIPAC is more winnable than a fight with the global oil market. Both he and Vance have been pretty openly threatening Israel. Whether they’ll have the spine to put some steel in those threats is to be seen, but that seems to be the direction they’re leaning, at least for now.
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Yeah, it’s pretty astonishing. I never thought I’d see the day.
4 - like in 2006. Hezbollah force israel to retreat
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This is the terrifying bit to me, FTA:
In his latest interview, Trump told Axios that there are “no limits” to his power and the peace deal is “probably is unconditional surrender” of Iran.
Trump was asked what the conflict had taught him about the limits of his power. Trump replied: “I haven’t learned that lesson yet. I know there are, but there are no limits.”
Yeah. He is either incredibly delusional about what is going on or his administration is really great at keeping him in the dark.
He keeps himself in the dark, because his brain doesn’t work.
Both because of dementia and because of life long narcissism at least.
It would be incredibly sad if it didn’t have such widespread consequences. He always was a dumb narcissist, but he really is deteriorating mentally quickly in the past year, and he never was that bright to begin with. He should be in an elderly home, not the oval office.
He is a dishonest piece of shit, so all of these can be true.
I know there are, but there are no limits.
The fuck does that mean
Tehran Surrender
Wrong.
Unconditional
Also wrong.
Conditional US Surrender
There it is.
He promised unconditional surrender, the media is saying he did not deliver that, and he looks like a bitch, which he is, and so now is just guiding his sheep and trolls and thralls to pretend he won so he doesn’t look like a bitch.
He’s not fooling anyone outside the flock though. President dickhead is a bitch. He’s Israel’s bitch.
Hahahahahahahaha fucking hell
He single handedly save the US from the jaws of success
Fucking idiot.
TACO time again?
Mighty morphin taco time!
To avoid this the next version of the memorandum of understanding must have a specific clause highlighting that Trump is a little bitch.
What can be done about these terrible click-bait “news” headlines? It’s just awful. A high school newspaper has more accurate headlines. Personally, I’d like to see news organizations that do this banned from being shared here if the poster uses the canned spam title with the post.
Maybe there is a news instance that doesn’t allow this. I’ll be outside shouting at clouds.
The thing that annoys me more is that the article and the headline have been updated now to say that the talks were called off because of Israeli strikes on Hezbollah.
I was curious not so much about what Trump said, but whether it actually affected negotiations.
I’d like to see news organizations that do this banned from being shared here if the poster uses the canned spam title with the post.
then nothing would be posted.
I don’t disagree with your point that editorialized headlines are just awful, but if you were to ban sources based on this criteria on lemmy, the information just wouldn’t be posted on lemmy.
Ah what a waste of time and money for everyone
Trump boasts of Tehran’s [start mumble] acceptance of our [end mumble] ‘unconditional surrender’
Oh dear, is he really going to fail at failing?
There weren’t any conditions left after you fulfilled them all…
I hate to be right, but this deal being bullshit was the easiest call in the world.
