Remember they will invest billions to kill unions as they already had in the past. You will begin to hear a lot of negativity towards unions.
It saddens me people fall for those anti union videos. Theyre obvious bullshit. A lot of people arent bright at all.
Yeah, I used to have a manual labor job and I had heard there the company had fleets in other regions that were unionized. I was like “Cool, can we do that?”
The response was basically “No, because even though our hourly wage would be better, we would no longer be able to work so much overtime so our take-home pay would be smaller.”
Even at the time I thought that sounded like a better deal (I’d gladly reduce my hours for a higher rate?) But everyone else just took that as facts and thought the unionized fleets were a bunch of suckers…
I guess it doesn’t help that manual labor jobs tend to be filled with the less educated…
Yeah, the second half of the headline surprised me. I was expecting something along the lines of “The industry struck back hard, punishing them severely.”
The union in this case is University of California workers, so probably not as big a lift as organizing a union in Corporate America. Still, a nice acheivement for those involved
If AI makes IT and tech workers unionize, it actually created something useful.
No shit! The amount of capitalist loving IT workers is staggering, a strong anarcho-libertarian bent to them. Which is why it’s hard to really unionize them because they don’t really believe in unionization as it gets in the way of money some how.
Unionizing is a free market solution that disrupts a crony government which only represents connected elites.
Aye but they’ve taught not to see it that way, they’ve been propagandaized that it’s a driving factor in worse conditions and pay.
“You understand how monopolies work, right? Don’t you want to get paid more like a monopoly does? Fuck 'em!”
Ayup, I have wanted to join a union but the people in my job either don’t care, or are right wing CHUDs.
So how do I, a tech worker not at any of these institutions, support the general movement toward unionization? Due to me being outspoken in general, I can’t really vocally support unions in a way that companies might notice (cause they wouldn’t hesitate to fire me for some other reason). But I can send money or do other things. I just need to know whatever organization I am supporting is a real deal. Not just another power monger looking for a way to gain influence.
At a minimum, speak positively of unions to those around you and, if possible, educate those that don’t know. So many people think unions are a bad thing from the historical propaganda.
fun thing, your workplace doesn’t have to be unionized for you to be part of a union, it just helps if most of it is. i know a dental office that is represented by the teamsters.
Union Now is worth supporting
join tech workers coalition or no tech for apartheid. There’s a lot of behind the scene work they do at a global level that doesn’t require any exposure
Sneak a few fliers up around the office? Careful how you print them though, cause they’ll probably print with tiny yellow fingerprints hiding highly identifying information
Oh… I could put up tons of flyers with no issue. But noone will see them because I am a remote worker. :)
Lay offs coming soon
I have mixed feelings on this. Tech workers are often the henchmen of borderline evil organisations. They’re looking for a place at the table, rather than to hold the companies accountable.
Of course, if it’s not as easy to lay them off maybe they can afford to risk holding them to account. I’m sceptical though.
well, from where else should come the power to interject with the company’s plans if not from forming unions? Like what does it mean to hold a company accountable if you have no leverage? Quitting and making a post on social media about it?
Absolutely, if you’re not at the table then you don’t have your say about the menu… because you’re a servant.
Don’t let perfection be the enemy of good.
At least they are fighting back. And now they have the collective power to stop working.
My question is: for who will they fight back? Meta employees have shown us they only fight for themselves as employees, not the victims of their work. And then there’s what Microsoft did to those who opposed involvement with genocide and colonialism. Many more examples too.
what does meta have to do with tbe university system?
Sounds like you live in a black and white world. Sorry, the world is not as easy as you’d like.
Trying to claim that all people who work in tech are in on sinister plots for Big Tech is cartoon-level oversimplification.
Intersting pint. Not entirely wrong either. The main issue is you said “borderline”. Drop that and you would be more accurate. Henchmen are usually the people who get thrown to the wolves to protect the evil leader. That too is accurate. Do you think henchmen do that willingly? I can tell you they do not. You can look at google and microsoft and such, where tech workers have spoken out about d What their company is doing. They don’t like it. But there are very very few jobs in tech where the company isn’t evil. So the best course of action they can take is to try to get some control and steer the company away from evil. They won’t be able to make it not evil, they just can’t get that much power. But they can make it a bit less evil. And if the union gets big enough it can lobby politicians and such to get laws passed that can further contain the evil. So it’s kinda just something that can be done.
also they have literally the highest minimum wage in the united states.
