Authorities brought 20 police cars, five SWAT officers, and drones to her house
https://www.twitch.tv/grammacrackers/clip/CharmingSolidNoodleKevinTurtle-CCpMMy7EX_W4v7_S
update: Found this video from local news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGeb3cuqLxE
you have to be one sick twisted individual to be swatting a person, let alone a freaking elderly woman
While she’s trying to raise money for her grandkid’s cancer treatment, no less.
Seriously, fuck whoever did this.
And fuck who ever supports a system that results in this…
With cancer even with places that do have socialized medical care you might still need a lot of money.
Cancer sucks.
I agree cancer sucks, but how do you need money? There is no fee to access healthcare here.
You get care that is covered, there might still be some drugs and experimental treatments that isn’t. This is because there’s still no actual cure for cancer.
This is why you still can see people collecting money for treatments even when they have socialized medical care.
When your cancer can be treated with already approved treatments then you are golden otherwise you do suffer similarly.
This is not attack on socialized medical care, you are still better than no care, you might still get radiation, chemotherapy etc, it is more attack on situation cancer can create.
There would only be extra costs if you want to go for private treatment
Perhaps the problem is the swat teams doing this shit with zero verification.
they share the blame for sure
Most american headline ever
Oh this absolutely happens here in europe too, just not with such a needlessly large amount of cops. Makes it no less dangerous though.
America has “police by intimidation” as its default response. Most of Europe seems to have “police by consent” as the default.
It leads to a different mentality. They might still roll out the whole cavalry, but it will more likely be led by a polite knock at the door, and an initial attempt to de-escalate.
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They mentioned in the video more cops came because they wanted to meet the gaming grandma, and they cleared the scene pretty quick.
I don’t think a grandma would have to raise money for cancer treatment in the EU…
Takes a special kind of asshole to swat a little old lady for trying to host a wholesome gaming stream for a good cause.
The fact that swating still happens just proves how much of a joke policing is in general. The fact that you can get a bunch of gun-wielding adrenaline junkies to show up somewhere, frothing at the mouth for violence, in the most spurious of ways is a damning indictment for the whole institution.
Yet they won’t do a damn thing if someone is actually assaulting you.
You don’t know what she did in Minecraft.
(/s)
I heard she made a mob farm of babies
Just here to point out that it’s not normal for a military response to some rando calling in a hit on someone’s house.
A normal response is a check by a single police car with two officers. One to knock on the door and ask questions. The other to remain with the vehicle to call in any issues.
This is a police state.
They probably reported to the operator an excess of melanin at the residence.
It really depends on what the call in was.
If someone says there’s an active threat and their life is in danger, sending 1 car would would be gross negligence and a danger to the officers.
Now, this call, seems excessive. I dont know what would warrant that response even if it was an active threat.
Yeah, you send one car first and have the other ready. It’s insane to send 20 cars instantly for an unverified anonymous tip. Idc if the caller said there’s an army of cannibals killing dozens of people, it’s still an unverified anonymous tip. If it’s real you’ll get more phone calls or the first car will radio it in.
Kudos to granny for being so positive about it and acknowledging that the cops have to follow up on the calls they receive, but if some anonymous tipster can bring down a SWAT team on some grandma’s house without any kind of check being triggered, that might indicate that there are some problems about how these issues are being handled. Other people may get out of this with much worse than a funny story to tell when two dozen cops decide to visit their house at night.
People have already died from swatting. Faster and cheaper than hiring an assassin.
From the point of contact, or including time to find a good one? A good assassin can be very quick.
I’ll give ya cheaper though. Good work costs good money.
They need to respond, but they need to end the whole “Killology” mindset that American cops are trained into.
Yah, send a car around first to at least glance, maybe try calling them too.
Why I quit MMOs and never looked back, because even more than 20 years ago toxic behavior was being normalized, and that included offline PK.
Fucking little assholes nearly killed a grandmother.
Is Minecraft really even a MMO? My understanding is that it’s usually smaller servers. This was probably more just some asshole using her streaming to attack, rather than a toxic player.
And these police organisations keep spouting “but we need more funds, to protect the community”
No, you fucking dont, you’re wasting your resources by attempting to uphold your strict quotas rather than actually serve and protect the community.
why a 82 y.o. grandma have to stream to pay for fucking cancer?
#Freedom
Because orphans need to be ground and you gotta pay to stop that.
America just cosplaying as a first world country
Most people get cancer free of charge. Is there an opt-out in the US or do you just have to pay for cancer whether you want it or not, like taxes?
I’m still amazed that this keeps happening but somehow, no one is ever caught?
Considering our telecons can’t (won’t) even enforce basic fucking origin checking, it’s not surprising.
These companies have ways of validating calls, it just takes money to setup and enforce, and we can’t waste money on silly things like basic safety when the shareholder value is at stake.
Assuming this was in the US, most 911 dispatchers are E911, so the approximate location is automatically included with the call. Smart phones are able to provide a more accurate location, and dispatchers still ask location because they don’t know what floor you’re on if it’s a multi story building.
Unfortunately, I’m fairly certain e911 isn’t super helpful against people already spoofing their number and location.
I’m vaguely aware of possible feature rfc to add another layer to prevent spoofing, but given how lazy telecoms are about doing validations MUCH more basic than extending a protocol/schema, I’m not holding my breath.
The E911 location information is not verified. It’s just a field you fill out when you sign up with a voip service. Smart phone location data can also be spoofed, but that’s not quite as easy.
Whoever did this needs to be charged with attempted murder. You can’t expect that police get a report of a threat at a residence (like a bomb threat or a murder threat) and they show up without weapons. Shame police time and resources had to be wasted ruining this poor old woman’s Minecraft night.
I guess on the up side, not many 82 year olds can tell their friends that they are important enough to have so many people show up to their house so late at night.
EDIT: Early news reports say that police received a call that said her grandson shot her (the 82 year old grandmother) and was threatening to kill himself. Completely reasonable response to that kind of a threat, if that is what the call was.
EDIT2: Apparently the police may have been able to catch it as SWATting early by confirming with the grandson himself? The way he seemed to talk, the police were cordial and weren’t aggressive, as if their guard was down maybe? They cleared the home to make sure the threat was fake, but I guess they were apologetic to grammcrackers, and she seemed in good spirits about it at least.
Completely reasonable response to that kind of a threat, if that is what the call was.
I think twenty cars is still too many
It is. Cops are bored that time of night so anything like this gets blown outta proportion
If someone was shooting people, I would definitely want every officer in the local area to show up. The police can’t possibly know if its real or not until they show up, and even if they talked with the home owner before they arrive they still have to check to make sure.
While I sure wish they could just believe you if you said you weren’t a criminal or something, that’s exactly what a criminal would say. So they gotta treat it as real even if its fake. Truly a shame so many awful people have led to this, but it will only get worse as time goes on.
Yeah I don’t disagree that they should go check it out with enough people but that’s, what, 40+ officers? To an incident supposedly involving two people? What are they all supposed to do? It’s just chaos and I don’t think they are helping the situation.
Police get a call about a person who has a gun, who already shot someone, and is threatening to kill himself. Logically speaking, a person that is erratic enough to report themselves like that isn’t likely far from the idea of deciding to shoot their neighbors or others in view too.
A person with a gun shooting even in the general direction of people, even if they don’t hit anything, is enough for me to say every officer in the area should be responding. If the first officers get there and become targets that are killed, more are showing up or are on the way. In a shooting situation it should be the goal of police to become the target being shot at instead of innocent civilians.
They can’t know if this kind of call is real or not, so they have to treat it like it is real. I would rather there be a few hours of chaos on a residential street for a false alarm by treating every report this seriously compared to something like the Ulvade school shooting happening again because police didn’t want to show up or were too scared to do their job.
My point is not about it maybe being false, I just don’t think that many people are helpful even if it is real, I think they will make the situation worse, they will not be able to make sensible decisions. I’m not talking about chaos in the street, but in coordination of law enforcement. At Uvalde, many police officers did show up, and they simply didn’t do their jobs. Among many issues with the response, they couldn’t make up their minds about who was in charge, that’s a problem with many people from many departments all showing up to an incident at once.
Completely reasonable response to that kind of a threat, if that is what the call was.
This sounds like complete absurdity, even as a Canadian.
“There’s nothing we can do about it!” -says only country in the world where it regularly happens
Whoever did this needs to be charged with attempted murder.
Doing that would raise certain implications, and validate a lot of concerns people have with police in the USA. I don’t think that’s likely to happen.
They should be charged with something, but I’m sure that won’t become a legal case which confirms that the police is basically a blunt weapon that can be swung with a phone call.
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Your title leaves out the part about her being swatted. Who knows what the scammer told the police.
Another side benefit to The Drug War, the gift that keeps on giving.
Hundreds of thousands of people are sitting in jails and prisons right now for using. Over three hundred thousand on any given day.
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/pie2026_drugs.html
This holdover from the Nixon era gets a little worse every year. Why do we have TWENTY cars available for any random prank caller?
Are we safe yet?
Don’t you feel fine having what is essentially a para military forced within the USA whose intention is to protect property and not people at all? I know I sure as shit don’t.
Shit cops with shit people calling them in, while granny tries to raise money for medical treatment for her grandson… Your shit country is working as designed.
Just curious about why she was raided. What did the warrant say?
You ever watch Police academy? You remember Tackleberry? That’s basically the United States police.
This also does nothing to answer my question. I share your opinion up to a point, but I think you missed something here. I was simply looking for factual information about the event.
Oh Eugene…
