President Donald Trump said “yeah, I probably will,” when asked whether he would consider pulling U.S. troops from Italy and Spain. “Why shouldn’t I? Italy has not been of any help to us and Spain has been horrible. Absolutely horrible,” he replied, doubling down on his argument that NATO allies have not supported the U.S. during the Iran war. “We helped them [Europe] with Ukraine… but when we needed them, they were not there. We have to remember that.” As of December 2025, there were 12,662 U.S. active-duty personnel stationed in Italy and 3,814 in Spain, according to data from the U.S. Defense Manpower Data Center (DMDC). While Spain has yet to respond to Trump mulling over the troops, Italy’s Defense Minister Guido Crosetto has pushed back. “I wouldn’t understand the reasons behind it. As is clear to anyone, we haven’t used the Strait of Hormuz. And we’ve even offered to carry out a mission to protect shipping—a gesture that, incidentally, was greatly appreciated by the U.S. military,” he told Italian ANSA news agency.

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    Those bases are for the benefit of American empire and force projection, not the benefit of Spain and Italy. Or in other words, don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

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      Which is why he won’t do this. One of his sycophants will explain at a 5th grade level that those bases benefit the US and Trump will forget about this.

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        Which is WHY HE WILL DO IT. It’s all to the benefit of Russia (and China). Every action he has taken makes sense through the lens of dismantling America. The rift is just an excuse to do Putin’s bidding.

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    Fucking do it then they’ll be more protected from retaliatory forces as they won’t be targets anymore.

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    but when we needed them, they were not there.

    This lie is the most insulting.

    NATO came out in support of its members every time they asked.

    There was but exactly one case, 25 years ago, though.

    It was America asking. We assisted.

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    I mean I think most people in those countries would appreciate that move.

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    This just in: Donald Trump is a fucking moron and will lose every deal he’s ever made. News at 24/7.

    The news I want to see: the fuck project 2025 people are doing. If someone can share those links, I’ll let you pet my dog, She’s cute and loves nearly everyone and might even make a better president.

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    It’s a long weekend here in Japan and I have to go to the prosecutor’s office tomorrow to interpret for what is likely going to be a US Marine who did something incredibly stupid. I wish they’d leave Okinawa too.

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    “Withdraw Troops” means evacuate injured soldiers, sailors and marines from destroyed ME bases back stateside to ease overcrowding in Germany.

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    TACO is such a baby and no one has forgotten that he is the most named person in the Epstein files.