• pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    I have a friend that started saying some weird stuff. I asked if he listened to rogan and they said that he’s great and got defensive right away. I wonder if they ever figured out how I knew they listened to rogan or thought about it at all.

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      Getting defensive means they know it’s bad, but somehow still pretend to themselves it’s not?

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        Nah, getting defensive means they ran out of talking points they’ve been fed and don’t know how to think for themselves.

        It’s like someone who plays EA sports game by themselves on easy and then throw the controller when they get smoked playing against another person

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        Huh? Is this how people interpret defensiveness? That’s wild to me. If someone told me they thought it was a good idea for them to steal all my stuff and kill me, for instance, you best believe I’m getting defensive. People get defensive when you attack something they want to defend.

        Edit: to be clear, all I’m saying here is that people can get defensive about something without secretly thinking its bad. I despise Joe Rogan and I think his listeners are dumb.

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          lol, you just proved their point quite well. Your example implicitly makes the equation between listening to Joe Rogan with theft and murder, and it immediately being understood as such just by virtue of being asked “do you listen to Joe Rogan”?

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            No, that’s a misunderstanding. I am not making that equation at all. And even if that was the way you wanted to read it, you’d have it backwards. The person criticizing Rogan is the one I “would be equating” with theft and murder. But, of course, I’m not saying that either. You’ve simply misunderstood me.

            I was giving an example of someone saying something that attacks something that’s important to me, namely, my property and my well-being. And using this to linguistically illustrate how, even though I definitely believe that my property and my well-being are something that’s right for me to maintain, I might still get defensive about it when someone attacks it.

            In my example, the thief is the attacker and I am the defender. In the original context, the Rogan-criticizer is the attacker (of a belief, basically) and the Rogan-listener is the defender.

            My point was to show that people get defensive when something important to them is attacked, regardless of whether they’re “pretending not to know its bad” or not. I certainly am not pretending not to know that my well-being is bad.

            I know its tempting to want to take every opportunity to dunk on the Rogan listeners and be like “lol, they’re getting defensive because deep down they know they’re wrong!”, but that is just a nonsensical way of thinking. Especially when they’ve already given us a legitimate reason to dunk on them, which is that they like to listen to a moron.

            Does that help clarify what I was saying?

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              Dude… we get it, you listen to Rogan, but nobody is crucifying you for that but yourself.

              Next time just say nothing, seriously.

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                I do not listen to Rogan, I hate Rogan. I’m assuming you’re being sarcastic but, yknow, may the record show that I do not like Joe Rogan one bit lol

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                  From your responses so far, I don’t believe you, and it would be very hard to change my mind, I also really don’t fucking care. I was more addressing your response in general.

                  It really is better to just walk away sometimes, friend. You’re really not doing yourself any favors. Take the L now, it will only get bigger and there is no W in this for you.

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    When you realize that you actually just feel bad for most people, and then it turns back to hate for the billionaires who have been pulling the strings for thousands of years…

    🌍 🔫 🧑‍🚀

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    Joe Rogan is also responsible for why the stand up comic scene is so garbage now. It’s nothing but Joe Rogan style right wing bros, doing the same stupid style of comedy.

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      Imbeciles have bought their way into the presidency, and bottom-tier comedians have bought themselves into gatekeepers of comedy. Next they’re going to tell me absolute fucking morons have bought their way into the top of Big Tech…

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    This got a good chuckle out of me. I remember I hit that button when he interviewed some scientist for the third time asking if the moon landing was fake.

    I’m still shocked he kept gaining popularity. He’s such an idiot.

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      Never shame people for getting better… It’s counterproductive and honestly weirdly spitefull, why are you not just happy they saw the light?

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      I used to listen to Rogan a lot. Because IMO he is a great interviewer and he was great at creating a casual environment.

      His interviews with Burr and Chapelle were great, and I love the one with Tarantino.

      I did not follow on his UWF fights nor the conspiration videos, since I am not into that.

      I never had him as a valid political interlocutor so I did not disengage until he overtly supported Trump. Then the mask was completely off and it was obvious that he is a grifter.

      Rogan is a very skilled influencer, he is very smart and he has his guests doing the talking.

      When I disengaged, I notice how often he is recommended innsuggestions, exactly like the “WOKES OWNED” kind of wideos.

      He is another part of this machinery that the Elites have created to divide and conquer the plebes.

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      there’s nothing wrong with character growth

      but, yes, you couldn’t be a decent person and subscribe to it because you thought it was valuable content

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      Old rogan was fine. It was just silly stoners getting high and bsing about aliens and which animal would win in a fight. It was stupid but entertaining. He wasn’t always a right wing dingus.

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    I used to listen to Joe Rogan. Till I went to university and was around actual smart people. Not just fart huffers

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      I haven’t listened to it, but Jesus fucking Christ people who are performatively “carnivorous” and want you to know about it are infinitely more tedious and pathetic than the preachiest of vegans.

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    I still can’t believe the lunkhead electrician from News Radio became so influential.

    Andy Dick ended up being the better person, after all.

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    There’s no need for emphasis on gender they simply become a decent human being.